I agree. I don't like manipulating balls either. -- ME2
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Eric Woodford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally don't like the pearl. Something about a roller ball on a > handheld just doesn't work for me. I have an 8703 and it works beautifully. > Yes, I have a wheel, but it makes sense. > > Handheld software can be downloaded from: > http://vzw.smithmicro.com/blackberry/download.aspx?ct=corporate > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Joe Heaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hmm, looking like the arguments for not going BB aren't really valid >> arguments anymore. Our carrier is Verizon, and they offer the Pearl, Curve, >> the 8703e and the 8830 World Edition. Any recommendations as to model? >> >> >> >> Looking at the specs on Verizon's website, I'm only seeing the version of >> the desktop software. Is that the same as what will be on the phone? If >> so, the 8830 has 4.2, and the Curve has 4.3. >> >> >> >> Should I hold out to see if they can deliver 4.5? >> >> >> >> Joe Heaton >> >> Employment Training Panel >> >> >> >> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:25 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Blackberry question >> >> >> >> Yea, it's no problem. Even Office 2007 attachments work for me. >> >> Granted I'm running the 4.5 BB OS which is out for some carriers and in >> beta for others. I've been running it forever and it rocks. >> >> Between that and the latest BES version, they have made up for a lot of >> those functions that were lacking from BB but already in WM. >> >> >> >> 4.5 features. >> >> >> >> • BlackBerry Maps with Points of Interest (H) >> • Improved media player with playlist support and automatic playlist >> generation (H) >> • Voice note recording (H) >> • Video recording on Curve models (H) >> • Streaming support for YouTube and Sling Player (H) >> • Microsoft Office document editing with DocumentsToGo (H) >> • Native format attachment downloading (S) >> • HTML e-mails (S) >> • Over-the-air device upgrades (S) >> • Free/busy calendar lookup (S) >> • Searching the server for old e-mail messages (S) >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:14 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Blackberry question >> >> >> >> Is there ever an issue with e-mail attachments? For instance, someone >> sends you a word document. Can you open that on your BB? My understanding >> was that there was no native support for Office docs. How about PDFs? >> Again, I'm not trying to flame here, just trying to get a better >> understanding of what the real truth is. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Joe Heaton >> >> Employment Training Panel >> >> >> >> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:01 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Blackberry question >> >> >> >> This was something I posted on another list and I admit I may be off base >> on some of it. >> >> >> >> The device: >> >> Frequent OS updates. RIM makes OS updates available and free. Whereas with >> WM, you are pretty much stuck with the version that came on your phone. I'm >> not saying it's impossible to get updated WM versions, just that it's not a >> given like it is on BB. While my WM5 users are still on WM5, my BB users >> have gone from 3.x to 4.x, and 4.5 coming soon. Each of those offers a slew >> of new or upgraded features. To me that has to be one of the best parts of >> the whole system. Sure some WM users get upgrades, but you are at the mercy >> of the provider and not all of them are so generous. >> >> >> >> Battery life rocks. I can go days and days and days without a recharge. >> Sure, some WM devices do that too, but not all. >> >> >> >> Since RIM not only builds the OS, but the phones, there are no issues with >> underpowered CPU's / hardware. Some WM devices are just damn slow. That's >> because the OS and device are not designed together. >> >> >> >> BES: >> >> I don't have to upgrade my whole Exchange environment to get new server >> side features. >> >> Just my BES server which takes about 30 minutes and is free as long as I >> have a valid support contract which isn't too expensive at all. >> >> >> >> Centrally managed. I can view all users, all user statistics, etc in one >> screen. Right now I'm looking at all my users and their PIN's. Plus their >> status, last contact date and time, sent / received messages and the times, >> filtered messages, pending one. >> >> >> >> >> >> I can create filters for my users on the fly if need be. >> >> >> >> I can set policies and deploy software. In the next version of BES I will >> be able to do OTA OS upgrades of devices. >> >> >> >> I can enable / disable PIM sync data from the server side at a fairly >> granular level if I wished. >> >> >> >> I can see what the users device is and all the specs on the device. Model, >> OS version, hardware, software, applications. For example from the BES >> server, I can see that I have Gmail, Google Maps, Jewel Rumble, and Live >> Search installed on my BB. >> >> >> >> Nobody can connect a device to my BES without getting an account setup by >> me. No rogue phones, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:51 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Blackberry question >> >> >> >> Martin, >> >> >> >> Sounds like you prefer Blackberry to WM. Can you give me some reasons for >> this? Not asking for flames, but real, honest reasons. >> >> >> >> Joe Heaton >> >> Employment Training Panel >> >> >> >> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:44 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Blackberry question >> >> >> >> Your execs sound like smart guys. >> >> Here is a product comparison. >> >> http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/#tab_tab_compare >> >> >> >> Professional is essentially for smaller deployments. It's like BES SBS. It >> won't support over 30 BB devices. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:07 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Blackberry question >> >> >> >> Can anyone tell me how the Blackberry Professional Software stacks up >> against BES? I'm being asked to give a comparison between the WinMobile >> devices we're using, and Blackberry devices. If the execs decide to go with >> Blackberry against my recommendations, I'd prefer to go with the >> Professional software, if it will meet our needs. I'm looking at the >> Blackberry website currently, but would like to hear personal, real world >> experiences, vs. the sales info on the site. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Joe Heaton >> >> AISA >> >> Employment Training Panel >> >> 1100 J Street, 4th Floor >> >> Sacramento, CA 95814 >> >> (916) 327-5276 >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
