Well, isn't it obvious that the government isn't helping them enough? Eventually the US government will HAVE to buy Detroit.
Tim Vander Kooi wrote: > For some of us, the irony is on the fact that those who live in the most > socialist parts of our country never seem to be able to figure out why the > economy is so much worse in their area in comparison to other parts of the > US. (i.e. - MI, MA, RI) > TVK > > -----Original Message----- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:21 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: OT: Re: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? > > roflwaffes. > > Our economy is already well socialized at the state and federal > levels. Edging it to be more (hopefully only for a short term) or less > for the welfare of a very hurting country is not necessarily a bad > thing - for the good of the country. Not that you are, but to brand > him a socialist, or any ideas he is pushing as "socialism", is silly > IMO. Our economy is a blend of capitalist and socialist ideals. > > -- > ME2 > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Probably not a great day to retort on this, but you will either agree or >> hunt me down.. >> >> 2009 is going to be a bad year in the economy. You don't bounce back from >> a trillion dollar globalwide investment loss, the largest downslide in the >> economy in over 70 years and a huge unemployment number.. >> >> I also don't care who is the President, they are not going to fix our >> problem. The president is a part of the checks and balances when it comes >> to the bills congress puts through, and yes he has an agenda and will push >> it with Congress; making it harder or easier to pass bills..Good or BAD. >> >> >> >> I can also tell you that I will be voting for McCain for the simple fact >> that Obama is moving this country toward a socialized economy no matter how >> you dress up the words. He wants to increase the taxes for me as a business >> owner and redistribute it in the form of higher taxes and a bloated >> government. Not to mention his provision for bring in illegals and giving >> them a driver license, benefits, social security(Which who will pay for >> that? You and I that's who). The welfare system kicked into high gear.....I >> did not work my butt off 60 to 70 hours a week to have someone who wants to >> sit on their butt for a year and take 60% welfare checks because McDonalds >> doesn't pay as much... among other personal value decisions.. >> >> If you have worked hard and saved you should not be penalized and your >> wealth redistributed simply because someone does not have as much. The very >> essence of this country was built upon hardwork and ingenuity, those who >> don't want to work and work hard are not entitled to the benefits of wealth >> from those that do. Also provide 100% healthcare..A noble goal, but the >> reality is that 100% healthcare is universal socialization and everyone >> paying a large piece to redistribute to everyone else who doesn't and the >> quality of care drops. Look at France...They pay CSG and CDRS(Healthcare, >> Social Security) taxes against their income and then their tax bracket after >> those taxes is up to 50%, this can equate to 60%+ of your income to taxes... >> >> >> >> Oh and to further my soapbox, One of the largest reasons we are where we are >> is a lack of personal responsibility (Mostly Wall Street and the Banks being >> greedy and making bad business decisions) and then demanding that our >> government pay for the mistakes of business owners, people who buy homes and >> cars we had no business buying, and saying, "Save me, I am a stupid person >> who takes no responsibility or my actions, but I will vote for whoever is >> going to promise me everything." >> >> >> >> Remember this. "A Government large enough to give you everything you want, >> is a government large enough to take everything you have." -- Henry Ford >> >> >> >> Ok off soapbox, back to regularly scheduled tech support. >> >> >> >> From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:37 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions? >> >> >> >> The college educational system which has grown by 440% in costs should be >> able to not be cutting budgets. IMO >> >> >> >> I think no matter who the President is everything will be better afterwards, >> whether we get the big spender and everyone sells stuff to the govt and we >> can cut out healthcare and use the govt's system to save money, or the cost >> saver gets in and it goes back to business as usual. >> >> >> >> Bush isn't going to do anything between now and then so that's probably why >> everything is topsy turvey, home sales went up last month for the first time >> so I think the end of the skid is coming to a close. (Thank God) >> >> >> >> On this end, I have seen a noticeable drop off in business, as a consultant, >> however, nothing worse than usual as the end of year is coming up and all >> the holidays, usually November/December are slow and I get a couple of big >> projects with the downtime, so we will see if I get those approved. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
