Totally agree...I only use vRanger in a non-automated way.  Always manually 
shut down the server and do the backup.  It's only a periodic thing because, 
like you said, we backup the day-to-day changes with our normal agent based 
backup solution and do vRanger images periodically for DR purposes only. 

 - Andy O. 
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From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESX backup solutions?

Not say any of are unaware of this, but there are *many* who are oblivious to 
the concept of a hotbackup.
My opinion is these are not 100% reliable. A hotbackup is very much like 
pulling the cord out of the wall on a running server and imaging it. Its dirty. 
Reality is that works a lot of time with a journaling FS like NTFS but it sure 
as heck doesn’t *always* work.
When you restore from a hotbackup, you are restoring from a power loss type 
scenario. If that acceptable to you, by all means do hotbackups ☺

I prefer to image (properly) servers and use an agent to compliment dynamic 
data as it changes. This causes me to have to power down some machines when 
certain non reproducible changes occur but that’s my style…



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