And hardware DEP (which AMD and Intel call different things). Regards,
Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange -----Original Message----- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi ESXi wouldn't even try to install on my ECS NFORCE6M-A(3.0) w/Phenom 9600. Told me the system wasn't recognized less than 2 minutes after booting the CD. HVS08, no problem. Maybe ESXi will run on specific cheap hardware, but Hyper-V will run on ANY cheap hardware that supports Vista 64-bit and virtual extensions. Carl -----Original Message----- From: Al Lilianstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi ESXi will run on white boxes and desktops. I have run it on a Dell Optiplex 620 and there is a whole community of folks running it on whiteboxes. Google esx white box Particularly the link - http://communities.vmware.com/thread/98225 Lots of people are running esx and ESXi on cheap hardware. al -- Al Lilianstrom CD/LSC/CSI/CSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi The basic differences between the two free products - Hyper-V Server 2008 (hereafter HVS08) vs. ESXi , are: ESXi has specific requirements on server and storage hardware. Those requirements are far more restrictive than HVS08 - for example you won't be able to run ESXi on a white box or desktop. HVS08 will run on any hardware with driver support for Windows 2008. HVS08 requires 64-bit and Intel-VT or AMD-V CPU support. ESXi can run on older server platforms that predate those features. ESXi allows over-subscription of memory. That means you could run two VMs allocated 4 GB each on a machine with less than 8 GB. HVS08 has almost as much RAM overhead as running it under Windows Server 2008 Core - so you would need about 9 GB to run two 4GB VMs. Carl From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi Hi folks, I know this has been discussed earlier, but it has been a few months, and (iirc) VMWare ESXi has come out since then. Also I think/hope some of the experts here have had a chance to try Hyper-V and/or ESXi a bit more, and might have more comments. I am under financial restraints, and thus the full ESX version, or other paid products, will not be viable for me. At this point, I'm looking at virtualizing a few web servers, using MS Server 2003. These are front end machines that "hook" to a back end SQL servers. A couple of these web servers get very little traffic, and some will have more. I'll look into Enterprise and DataCenter versions because of the multiple copies on a virtual server that are allowed. I'm planning on using the local server for disk storage, no NAS/SAN involved. I do have the hardware that can run the virtual software necessary (maybe need some more RAM). My question. Preference? Also any new links that might compare the two? I might also look into Xen/Citrix free version, so if anybody has comments on that, please let me know. Thanks. Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
