If Microsoft is smart they'll bump the internal number to 7.0 just to undercut everyone saying it's Vista 2.0 or Vista R2. But something like that will probably annoy MS developers who know it's not different enough to justify a major version increment.
(Yes, I know that what's been demonstrated or released so far has shown 6.1 as the internal number). Carl From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: smart phone sync with Vista By the way Len just so you know the core number for Windows 7 is 6.1. It is going to be closer to Windows Vista R2. Jon On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Len, are you running a 64 bit version of Vista by chance. I have an 8525 and initially had issues with Vista Ultimate 64 bit. I will admit that I am running WM6.0 (or is it 6.1?) and have not tried it with WM 5.0. I was running some custom cooked ROMs on my 8525 when I took it WM6.0 and didn't see any negative effects. HTH. Joe Fox Systems/Network Administrator Mobile# (716) 846-9308 http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Len Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This one was connecting fine and then I disconnected it to make a phone call and when brought back it wouldn't connect again. This device is new enough to be stable and old enough for MS and HTC to have the bugs worked out of the drivers. But, then again, I guess not. The @#$%^ thing will not connect or sync anymore. Even after the battery trick again. /rant on There is no excuse for a company the resources of Microsoft to send out stuff that refuses to work. But then again, they did publish Windows Millenium Edition and Vista. :-\ I think I'll just wait for Windows 7. /rant off On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry it's not working, really. But, I wouldn't blame Vista, but probably a combination of Vista, your specific hardware and the specific device based on Internet searches. My device connects flawlessly with Vista (well, after the battery trick). From: Len Hammond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 4:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: smart phone sync with Vista Now the phone and the laptop have quit communicationg altogether. No amount of rebooting seems to get it talking again. I'll try the battery trick again but if not, then I'm just going to remove the Windows Mobile Device Center and forget the whole thing. Getting the phone to sync with a Vista box is just not worth the effort. It still syncs with the XP box and that is adequate for now. Maybe when Win7 comes out I'll try again. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Len Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is. And it now shows my device. However now the two aren't talking and I still can't find the data it said earlier synced, when they WERE talking. This is kinda frustrating. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't there a sync centre in the COntrol Panel in Vista? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Len Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No. Hadn't found that one yet. Thank you. OK. Here is the current status. Powered down the laptop - left if off for a couple of minutes and then restarted. Powered down the 8525 and removed the battery for a couple of minutes. Powered up the Vista laptop. Reinstalled battery in the device and powered up. Connected the 8525 device to a USB port on the laptop and this time it found it and made some kind of connection and indicated that it was synchronizing. Funny thing is that I can't find where the sync occurred to. I thought it was supposed to go to Outlook (like it does on my XP desktop) however it is not in Outlook and it is not in the Windows Contacts that is native to Vista. I'll keep looking in a bit. I can browse into the device and see my folders there with the data files on my MicroSD cardin the device so communication IS taking place. Now, it's on to find the data and get the sync to occur from the device to Outlook. or maybe I want it to go to the Windows Contacts list. Well, try to find what happened first. Thanks for the help. Len On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You saw this? http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular <http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=4 5316#M45316> &message.id=45316#M45316 From: Len Hammond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: smart phone sync with Vista I have tried rebooting the device and the laptop. No joy. I did not perform a hard reset of the device, presumably wiping out all data. As for the device operating system. Windows Mobile 5. Cingular did invite me to upgrade the device to WM6. I did download WM6 but as their documentation for that upgrade indicated that it was a "one-way" trip from WM5 to WM6 and that not all devices would work with WM6, I elected not to perform the upgrade. As I use this device as my primary phone for my IT business, their notes did not give me warm fuzzies on the success of the upgrade. At the time, as now, the device is working fine and syncing fine with my XP desktop. This is not a mandatory change for continued functionality. My Cingular (AT&T) contract is in the last 3 or 4 months so I would be eligible for device upgrade with contract renewal almost anytime. However, I like the device well enough that I would be willing to not spend the money to upgrade a device if I don't need to. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On mine it did not work but I would have hoped that Len had tried that already. There is a note of what OS versions will and will not work in the documentation I was referring to. Our device was too old to and did not have all the necessary software to make it work it was a 5+ year old PDA. It was also not upgradable. You are right though Len never implied that he had tried a reset of both my bad. Jon On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you tried resetting the device itself? That helps sometimes. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: smart phone sync with Vista I have found that it depends a lot on what OS the mobile device is running if you will get a connection or not. I am not the brightest bulb but I ended up having to replace the mobile device because of that issue. Some OS's just plain will not connect. The Mobile device center also needed a download from Microsoft just to get it to work as well but that is documented on the Vista site some place. Jon On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Len Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Afternoon All, Recently I replaced my XP laptop with a Vista laptop. I have been syncing my Cingular (HTC) 8525 with both my dek computer and my XP laptop for a couple of years. Only have the occasional time when the connections is not made. usually fixed by rebooting both devices. Anyway, the real question is how do I get this same phone to talk with Vista. I have the Windows Mobile Device Center for Vista installed. The device makes contact with the laptop and charges and says that it installs the software but remains "unidentified" as a device. WMDC also makes no connection with the 8525. So far the googling I have done has not yielded an answer; just more questions. Ayone have a process that works to make these two devices talk? Thanks in advance -- Len Hammond -- Len Hammond CSI:Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Len Hammond CSI:Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Len Hammond CSI:Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
