Penny wise, Dollar stupid...

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <saber...@gmail.com>wrote:

> True, but they are in effect setting the company up for a lawsuit that the
> company would lose, which would result in the company spending a whole lot
> more money than they would if they just paid the OT and/or gave comp time.
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>  On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Eric Brouwer <er...@forestpost.com>wrote:
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>>  HR is most likely acting for the Company, and saving money by not giving
>> an argument for more money.
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>>   On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
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>>  Your HR person needs to be fired.  Seriously, this kind of thing is
>> their job, and it sounds like you are doing the research and stating what
>> the laws and such are instead of them.   Any possibility of comp time being
>> given?
>>
>> Sounds like you are on the right track and have done the research to back
>> your position.  Unfortunately, it seems that you'll have to go to an outside
>> source.
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>>   On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Sean Houston <seanthous...@gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> I appreciate the feedback.  You always realize the things that seem so
>>> obvious that you forget to mention because you're trying to even wrap your
>>> head around the situation.
>>>
>>> The company has brances in several states, but the main office & the IT
>>> staff is located in Ohio.
>>>
>>> Our HR department / person...  has not been to helpful when it comes to
>>> the entire situation.
>>>
>>> I believe all of our IT department excluding our manager would be
>>> considered non-exempt.  The articles I've been through (about 20) are mostly
>>> federal documents.  They all state that unless you make over a certain wage
>>> ($455 per week for Salary & $27.63 for Hourly) and work as the programmer,
>>> analyst, developer, etc, which none of us are, we cannot be considered
>>> Exempt.
>>>
>>> I figure we'll have to hire a lawyer or outside HR professional to just
>>> answer our questions ;)
>>>
>>> I just wanted to say thank you in advance, I appreciate any feedback.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Sean Houston
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <
>>> saber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get your Human Resources Dept. involved.  They should know exactly what
>>>> the rules/laws are, and should have the authority to squash any opposition
>>>> you are getting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Sean Houston <seanthous...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was curious as to what everyone does here (or your company does) in
>>>>> regards to IT staff and salaries.  I'm not management, but when it comes 
>>>>> to
>>>>> anything IT related I'm the go to guy.  I know there is a lot of gray area
>>>>> in regards to how salary and overtime works especially in relation to IT
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> From what I can tell according to the department of labor unless your
>>>>> primary job is a systems developer, analyst, programmer, etc your employer
>>>>> is required to pay you overtime unless you are management.  We have IT
>>>>> Technicians who are salary, but they are going to have to start working
>>>>> overtime soon.  I believe the company is required to pay them overtime, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> I'm meeting some strong opposition on this.  I've read even if there is an
>>>>> agreement between the employee and employer, or the salary is based on 50
>>>>> hours, these types of agreements are restricted by the department of 
>>>>> labor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any thoughts, or even better, experience with such things?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean Houston
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>>
>>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>>> Arthur C. Clarke
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>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
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>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
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>> Eric Brouwer
>>  IT Manager
>> www.forestpost.com
>> er...@forestpost.com
>> 248.855.4333
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> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
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> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
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