Penny wise, Dollar stupid... On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <saber...@gmail.com>wrote:
> True, but they are in effect setting the company up for a lawsuit that the > company would lose, which would result in the company spending a whole lot > more money than they would if they just paid the OT and/or gave comp time. > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Eric Brouwer <er...@forestpost.com>wrote: > >> HR is most likely acting for the Company, and saving money by not giving >> an argument for more money. >> >> On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote: >> >> Your HR person needs to be fired. Seriously, this kind of thing is >> their job, and it sounds like you are doing the research and stating what >> the laws and such are instead of them. Any possibility of comp time being >> given? >> >> Sounds like you are on the right track and have done the research to back >> your position. Unfortunately, it seems that you'll have to go to an outside >> source. >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Sean Houston <seanthous...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I appreciate the feedback. You always realize the things that seem so >>> obvious that you forget to mention because you're trying to even wrap your >>> head around the situation. >>> >>> The company has brances in several states, but the main office & the IT >>> staff is located in Ohio. >>> >>> Our HR department / person... has not been to helpful when it comes to >>> the entire situation. >>> >>> I believe all of our IT department excluding our manager would be >>> considered non-exempt. The articles I've been through (about 20) are mostly >>> federal documents. They all state that unless you make over a certain wage >>> ($455 per week for Salary & $27.63 for Hourly) and work as the programmer, >>> analyst, developer, etc, which none of us are, we cannot be considered >>> Exempt. >>> >>> I figure we'll have to hire a lawyer or outside HR professional to just >>> answer our questions ;) >>> >>> I just wanted to say thank you in advance, I appreciate any feedback. >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> >>> Sean Houston >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Sherry Abercrombie < >>> saber...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Get your Human Resources Dept. involved. They should know exactly what >>>> the rules/laws are, and should have the authority to squash any opposition >>>> you are getting. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Sean Houston <seanthous...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was curious as to what everyone does here (or your company does) in >>>>> regards to IT staff and salaries. I'm not management, but when it comes >>>>> to >>>>> anything IT related I'm the go to guy. I know there is a lot of gray area >>>>> in regards to how salary and overtime works especially in relation to IT >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> From what I can tell according to the department of labor unless your >>>>> primary job is a systems developer, analyst, programmer, etc your employer >>>>> is required to pay you overtime unless you are management. We have IT >>>>> Technicians who are salary, but they are going to have to start working >>>>> overtime soon. I believe the company is required to pay them overtime, >>>>> but >>>>> I'm meeting some strong opposition on this. I've read even if there is an >>>>> agreement between the employee and employer, or the salary is based on 50 >>>>> hours, these types of agreements are restricted by the department of >>>>> labor. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any thoughts, or even better, experience with such things? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Sean Houston >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sherry Abercrombie >>>> >>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." >>>> Arthur C. Clarke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sherry Abercrombie >> >> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." >> Arthur C. Clarke >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Eric Brouwer >> IT Manager >> www.forestpost.com >> er...@forestpost.com >> 248.855.4333 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Sherry Abercrombie > > "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." > Arthur C. Clarke > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~