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From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE 8 today I like Firefox myself; with the appropriate plugins, it fits my web browsing needs and habits much better than IE. However, it isn't an enterprise-manageable application, so it is a not anything I would consider deploying at my company. And, yes, we do struggle with the IE certification for applications as well. -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE 8 today I became a fan and user of Firefox years ago when it was the only browser to offer tabbed browsing. Just because IE now offers that, I still see no reason to switch back. Ironically, at my work, we still haven't implemented IE7 because of two enterprise applications that have not been certified on IE7 by the software companies for use with there web based interfaces. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Michael Ross <mr...@itwif.com<mailto:mr...@itwif.com>> wrote: All good points.. really. However.. I disagree that it IS more secure.. For example.. a recent issue... http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2934 -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com<mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE 8 today On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Michael Ross <mr...@itwif.com<mailto:mr...@itwif.com>> wrote: > I dunno why.. but I disagree with statement touting that firefox is the top > dog to work with or use.. Okay, I'll bite... :) It's been a long week; this will be refreshing... :) I like Firefox better. It's faster and more flexible. Firefox tends to work they way I want. I can make it do what I want more easily. There are more useful extensions for Firefox Firefox works on all my computers, not just XP and Vista. Yes, we still have Win 2000 in production at work. I've got Linux at home and on my laptop. Firefox runs everywhere.. Extensions to MSIE, like IE7Pro, let IE catch up to Firefox in many ways, but Firefox has been doing more of what I want "out of the box" for years and years, when MSFT was still leaving us languishing with MSIE 6. Why should I go through the pain and effort of switching back now? The development community responds better and faster than Microsoft. See above. In practice, I think Firefox is more secure than MSIE. Web developers wanting to target MSIE are encouraged to use ActiveX, and downloading native machine code over the Internet into a browser is horrible idea and always was. NoScript blocks even JavaScript-based attacks. Permit Cookies lets me manage cookie permission easily. The fact that some sites *still* don't work right with anything but MSIE 6, and the fact that Microsoft *still( makes it unreasonably hard to run multiple versions of their browser, means that I can't even really try seriously newer releases. With Firefox, I can simply install to a different directory. It takes all of five seconds. > I have zero issues using IE7 ... > Zero.. EXCEPT ... "That word you keep using. I do not think it means what you think it means." :) > as far at the memory issue.. ehhhh I just reboot and in 1.5 > minutes ... Another thing I like about Firefox is that, since it hasn't been shoved into the OS core in an attempt to stifle competition (see Findings of Fact, US v. MSFT, 5 Nov 1999), I can easily shutdown, kill, and/or upgrade the browser without having to reboot my *entire computer*. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
