It was a joke on my part, I couldn't resist the jab. In all honesty I use 
Outlook everywhere (work, home, clients) and have no issues with it. Same for 
IE. Same for XP / Vista. They're popular to shoot fun at, but for me, what I do 
day in and day out, it's no problem. I figure the more frequent patching, etc 
is probably equivalent to the time to make "other than MS" options work in a 
largely MS environment.  We have many Mac users in my office, and while they 
gloat about not having vulnerabilites to speak of, they bitch that stuff from 
PC's doesn't always work on their Mac's and vice versa.

I tried to migrate a (45 user) client to 100% FireFox (back at version 1.1). 
Another cleint (20 users) I tried to go to 100% Foxit Reader. Guess what, there 
was enough incompatibility that ultimately it wasn't worth the effort in either 
case. There are times with "go with what you know" actually IS a time and 
effort saver.

Much of my time is making 3rd party apps work with Microsoft's stuff - weather 
I should be blaming Microsoft or the 3rd patry vendor depends entirely upon 
which side of the fence you're on :-).

Dave

________________________________
From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@owa.smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gmail

Hey - I said fully-featured.

(No intent to start a war here. :-) )
________________________________
From: Tom Miller [tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gmail

GroupWise.  Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware).  Been doing GW admin 
for many years, many versions.  (Exchange admin as well but I can't say 
Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.)

>>> "Michael B. Smith" <mich...@owa.smithcons.com> 7/7/2009 7:35 PM >>>
Oh?

And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook?

________________________________
From: David Lum [david....@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gmail

So has Outlook….

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gmail

Gmail has been "beta" for years......
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman 
<mfree...@alanet.org<mailto:mfree...@alanet.org>> wrote:
How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I 
don't remember any "beta" notification.


Murray


________________________________
From: Steven M. Caesare 
[mailto:scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gmail

They are now collector’s items. Put them on ebay.



-sc



From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com<mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gmail



Refresh took mine out of beta.  Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left.  What 
happened to the bazillion I had?

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
<scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:

I guess that shows what they think of you.



-sc



From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com<mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Gmail



Mine still shows as Beta.



Jon

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
<scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:

Well, well, well… finally out of beta.



-sc

















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