Since I don't work with doctors in my capacity of IT geek, I don't
know for sure. However, I was married to a critical care nurse for 7
years, and I'll put my money on the doctors.

Heh.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 05:04, paul chinnery<pdw1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A third of my users are doctors.  I wonder which group is harder to work
> with: engineers or doctors?
>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:51:09 -0700
>> Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
>> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
>> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>>
>> Truth. However, there are also political and training issues.
>>
>> 1) We haven't, as a company (nor within IT) figured out how to make
>> our standard apps work under under non-admin accounts. This will take
>> time and resources to figure out, and then further time and resources
>> to figure out how to "productionise" the application of these settings
>> and apply them across the domain, including two offices overseas.
>>
>> 2) A large portion of our users are engineers who have a rabid
>> aversion to the idea that they can't be admins on their own boxes. I'm
>> in the (multi-year!) process of simply trying to convince engineering
>> managers that none of the staff need two NICs in their boxes - one for
>> the production LAN and one for the test/dev LAN.
>>
>> 3) The overseas offices are also politically resistant to this idea.
>>
>> While I agree that the load would be lessened, and we'd have a much
>> better managed and more secure environment, this is not a trivial
>> effort, and at times I despair. But, I persist, and have it as a goal
>> to work toward this fiscal year.
>>
>> The first step is to get signoff by company management, in the form of
>> an actual policy - something of which there are no good examples.
>> There are practices and recommendations regarding IT, but very little
>> in the way of a real IT policy that has been agreed to by management.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 07:52, Jonathan Link<jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > After taking local admin rights away from users my plate is less full.
>> > YMMV.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes, unfortunately, all our users are admins. It sucks, but I use it
>> >> to my advantage when I can.
>> >>
>> >> The reason we've not done a GP is because we haven't had the luxury of
>> >> studying to understand them. Our plates always seem to be full with
>> >> other things.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 19:04, Ken Schaefer<k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>> >> > Are all your users admins? Otherwise, how is that logon script going
>> >> > to
>> >> > update HKLM?
>> >> >
>> >> > Machine-based startup script would be better idea, no?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > Ken
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________________
>> >> > From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 2:41 AM
>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> > Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm just pushing out the .reg file in the login script:
>> >> >
>> >> >     regedit /s \\fileserver\public\patches\videokillbits.reg
>> >> >
>> >> > The file was easy to create, in a capable editor (not notepad or
>> >> > wordpad) that allows metacharacter search and replace, such as '\n'
>> >> > for CRLF and '\t' for tab. I used the ancient, no-longer-supported
>> >> > PFE32. I really should switch to VIM, I suppose.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 08:40, Eric
>> >> > Wittersheim<eric.wittersh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I'm pushing out the .reg via GP.  So far so good.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The “Microsoft fix-it” is an MSI that I am pushing via SMS and is
>> >> >>> pushing
>> >> >>> fine (so far just a few test cases have it, but no issues). Beats
>> >> >>> trying to
>> >> >>> push out a .REG or something…
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
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