Yeah, well...

In the medical field, right after doctors, I'd put CCU nurses. Heh.

Kurt

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:27, paul chinnery<pdw1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks.  I am so forwarding this to our Clincal Analyst; she's a licensed RN
> who use to work in CCU.
>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:44:54 -0700
>> Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
>> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
>> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>>
>> Since I don't work with doctors in my capacity of IT geek, I don't
>> know for sure. However, I was married to a critical care nurse for 7
>> years, and I'll put my money on the doctors.
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 05:04, paul chinnery<pdw1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > A third of my users are doctors.  I wonder which group is harder to work
>> > with: engineers or doctors?
>> >
>> >> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:51:09 -0700
>> >> Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
>> >> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
>> >> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>> >>
>> >> Truth. However, there are also political and training issues.
>> >>
>> >> 1) We haven't, as a company (nor within IT) figured out how to make
>> >> our standard apps work under under non-admin accounts. This will take
>> >> time and resources to figure out, and then further time and resources
>> >> to figure out how to "productionise" the application of these settings
>> >> and apply them across the domain, including two offices overseas.
>> >>
>> >> 2) A large portion of our users are engineers who have a rabid
>> >> aversion to the idea that they can't be admins on their own boxes. I'm
>> >> in the (multi-year!) process of simply trying to convince engineering
>> >> managers that none of the staff need two NICs in their boxes - one for
>> >> the production LAN and one for the test/dev LAN.
>> >>
>> >> 3) The overseas offices are also politically resistant to this idea.
>> >>
>> >> While I agree that the load would be lessened, and we'd have a much
>> >> better managed and more secure environment, this is not a trivial
>> >> effort, and at times I despair. But, I persist, and have it as a goal
>> >> to work toward this fiscal year.
>> >>
>> >> The first step is to get signoff by company management, in the form of
>> >> an actual policy - something of which there are no good examples.
>> >> There are practices and recommendations regarding IT, but very little
>> >> in the way of a real IT policy that has been agreed to by management.
>> >>
>> >> Kurt
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 07:52, Jonathan Link<jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > After taking local admin rights away from users my plate is less
>> >> > full.
>> >> > YMMV.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, unfortunately, all our users are admins. It sucks, but I use it
>> >> >> to my advantage when I can.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The reason we've not done a GP is because we haven't had the luxury
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> studying to understand them. Our plates always seem to be full with
>> >> >> other things.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 19:04, Ken Schaefer<k...@adopenstatic.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Are all your users admins? Otherwise, how is that logon script
>> >> >> > going
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > update HKLM?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Machine-based startup script would be better idea, no?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cheers
>> >> >> > Ken
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ________________________________________
>> >> >> > From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2009 2:41 AM
>> >> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: New IE zero day exploit in the wild
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm just pushing out the .reg file in the login script:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >     regedit /s \\fileserver\public\patches\videokillbits.reg
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The file was easy to create, in a capable editor (not notepad or
>> >> >> > wordpad) that allows metacharacter search and replace, such as
>> >> >> > '\n'
>> >> >> > for CRLF and '\t' for tab. I used the ancient, no-longer-supported
>> >> >> > PFE32. I really should switch to VIM, I suppose.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 08:40, Eric
>> >> >> > Wittersheim<eric.wittersh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> I'm pushing out the .reg via GP.  So far so good.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:38 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> The “Microsoft fix-it” is an MSI that I am pushing via SMS and
>> >> >> >>> is
>> >> >> >>> pushing
>> >> >> >>> fine (so far just a few test cases have it, but no issues).
>> >> >> >>> Beats
>> >> >> >>> trying to
>> >> >> >>> push out a .REG or something…
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
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