If you're using the traditional IPSec client, I believe you can have up
to 25 clients, *plus* 2 additional SSL VPN Clients, for a total of 27
concurrent users.

 

Aaron T. Rohyans
Senior Network Engineer

CCIE #21945, CCSP, CCNA, CQS-Firewall, CQS-IPS, CQS-VPN, ISSP, CISP,
JNCIA-ER

DPSciences Corporation
7400 N. Shadeland Ave., Suite 245

Indianapolis, IN 46250
Office:  (317) 348-0099
Fax:   (317) 849-7134
arohy...@dpsciences.com
http://www.dpsciences.com/

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

 

Just so I know for sure on a 5505 with the Security Plus license I can
have 10 total VPN clients accessing the device with only 2 of those
being the AnyConnect that is correct, right?

 

Jon

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good to know EDU pricing on Essentials is sweet.

 

Jon

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Rohyans, Aaron
<arohy...@dpsciences.com> wrote:

All you need is the Essentials then - gives you the same functionality
of the older IPSec client (full tunnel back to corporate).  If you don't
care about the WebVPN stuff, then you don't ever need to worry about
upgrading again to Premium - just stick with the Essentials from here on
out.

 

Aaron T. Rohyans
Senior Network Engineer

CCIE #21945, CCSP, CCNA, CQS-Firewall, CQS-IPS, CQS-VPN, ISSP, CISP,
JNCIA-ER

DPSciences Corporation
7400 N. Shadeland Ave., Suite 245

Indianapolis, IN 46250
Office:  (317) 348-0099
Fax:   (317) 849-7134
arohy...@dpsciences.com
http://www.dpsciences.com/

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:43 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

 

Yeah it makes sense but I wish they would have just stayed cut and dried
and not followed the crowd and gone with this licensing structure.

 

So do I need the Premium license or can I get away with an Essentials
license.  The AnyConnect will work on a Mac so I don't need or want the
Web based VPN operational, which is how it is setup now.  (No web based
VPN)  I have several staffers that on the next OS refresh will be going
to X64 on their machines and they will need the VPN.

 

Jon

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Rohyans, Aaron
<arohy...@dpsciences.com> wrote:

Well - you're describing two different licenses - so yes, back to your
point, Cisco is getting difficult on license options J

 

The ASA "platform" itself has several different licenses (Base, Security
Plus, VPN Edition, etc.).  All come with the 2 free Premium SSL
Licenses.

 

What we're referring to here is an *additional* license to buy on top of
your Base/Security Plus/VPN Edition license to give you the capability
to run more concurrent SSL users.  SSL is just a licensed "feature" of
your normal ASA license if that makes sense.  As is Phone Proxy,
Advanced Endpoint Assessment, etc.

 

So, from what you're describing, your normal platform license will
always remain the Security Plus license, but you will be upgrading the
SSL features of the Security Plus license to include more concurrent SSL
users.

 

Hope that makes sense J

 

Aaron T. Rohyans
Senior Network Engineer

CCIE #21945, CCSP, CCNA, CQS-Firewall, CQS-IPS, CQS-VPN, ISSP, CISP,
JNCIA-ER

DPSciences Corporation
7400 N. Shadeland Ave., Suite 245

Indianapolis, IN 46250
Office:  (317) 348-0099
Fax:   (317) 849-7134
arohy...@dpsciences.com
http://www.dpsciences.com/

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:05 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

 

That last sounds expensive unless we can use a 5505 to be the license
server.  I think we have the Premium license now it is called Security
Plus and gave me the 2 AnyConnects I have now but does give me an option
to add additional licenses.  Cisco is getting just as hard as Microsoft
at dealing with on licenses.

 

Jon

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Rohyans, Aaron <arohy...@dpsciences.com>
wrote:

Not entirely sure - but from what I've heard, it's either or... i.e. you
buy 100 Essentials licenses now... then down the road you cannot
"upgrade" to a premium... you have to purchase an entirely new set of
100 Premium licenses.  Thus, your ASA becomes a "Premium only" SSL box.
Your users will remain unaffected as it's the same AnyConnect client for
both license structures.  You'll just get the ability to do WebVPN proxy
as well.  That (IMHO) is why they made the Essentials package so much
cheaper - +/-$200 now is justifiable for quick connectivity, but sooner
or later you'll probably have to spend the real money on the Premium
licenses.

 

Also, with version 8.2 of the ASA code, Cisco now gives you the ability
to do Flex Licensing.  Flex Licensing allows you to buy, say 100
Essentials and 100 Premium licenses, throw them onto a License Server
(another ASA), then have all 200 of your License Server licenses be
allocated dynamically to multiple ASAs around your environment (each
"child" ASA will enroll with the License server to request SSL licenses
as the needs arise).

 

Aaron T. Rohyans
Senior Network Engineer

CCIE #21945, CCSP, CCNA, CQS-Firewall, CQS-IPS, CQS-VPN, ISSP, CISP,
JNCIA-ER

DPSciences Corporation
7400 N. Shadeland Ave., Suite 245

Indianapolis, IN 46250
Office:  (317) 348-0099
Fax:   (317) 849-7134
arohy...@dpsciences.com
http://www.dpsciences.com/

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:41 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

 

Aaron,

 

How hard is it to switch from one license form to another?  I will be
looking at that soon.

 

Jon

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Rohyans, Aaron <arohy...@dpsciences.com>
wrote:

The older IPSec client is going away in favor of the AnyConnect SSL VPN
Client (which works on all 32/64 bit platforms).  Eventually, Cisco will
add IPSec support for the AnyConnect client (so that it connect using
SSL, or traditional methods), but for now it is completely SSL based.
You get 2 free Premium licenses with the Base License of an ASA -
standard.  You can purchase AnyConnect Essentials licenses (which give
you everything you need to create a full VPN tunnel) for about $200 for
100 users - so the price is reasonable.  The Premium version of the
licenses add the capability to do WebVPN Proxy as well, but will run you
significantly more.

 

You cannot run Essentials/Premium licenses simultaneously... it is one
or the other.  For simple VPN tunneling capabilities (like what the
older IPSec client did)... the Essentials is what you want and you can
pick up 100 licenses for next to nothing.

 

As someone else mentioned, you can also generate a self-signed cert on
the ASA for free, but your users will need to click through a few
warnings in order to connect (similar to how IE forces you to
acknowledge that you are going to a secure site that it doesn't trust).
I always recommend enrolling with a 3rd party CA (Entrust, Verisign,
GoDaddy, etc.) to make installations and subsequent connections go
smoothly.

 

Hope this helps!

 

Aaron T. Rohyans
Senior Network Engineer

CCIE #21945, CCSP, CCNA, CQS-Firewall, CQS-IPS, CQS-VPN, ISSP, CISP,
JNCIA-ER

DPSciences Corporation
7400 N. Shadeland Ave., Suite 245

Indianapolis, IN 46250
Office:  (317) 348-0099
Fax:   (317) 849-7134
arohy...@dpsciences.com
http://www.dpsciences.com/

 

From: Owens, Michael [mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:24 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

 

ahahhaah Well I guess theres that too. 

 

Wow it's early.

 

________________________________

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:dav...@imcu.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

Just more licenses...

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Owens, Michael <mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov>  

        To: NT System Admin Issues
<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>  

        Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:19 AM

        Subject: RE: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

         

        So wait - when Windows 7 comes out, (and supposedly everyone
goes to it) Everyone will need to buy new ASAs, or more SSL lisenses? I
read that Ncp secure entry client, works... I dont suppose anyone has
given it a shot?

         

         

        
http://www.ncp-e.com/en/solutions/vpn-products/secure-entry-client.html

________________________________

        From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
        Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:11 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Re: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

        ASA will generate a self-signed cert for you and on X64 you will
use AnyConnect.  Depending on how you set it up you can make it so that
only preinstalled users can access it.  I just finished getting ours up
and running with 2 clients using the AnyConnect, and now have to look at
getting an expanded license so that I can use the AnyConnect more.

         

        Jon

        On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:02 AM, N Parr <npar...@mortonind.com>
wrote:

        Load a cert and away you go, it's all web based.  

         

________________________________

        From: Owens, Michael [mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov] 

        Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 6:59 AM 

        
        To: NT System Admin Issues

        Subject: RE: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

         

        I was afraid you'd say that. It actually isn't MY ASA. I do side
work for a company I used to work for... one of the big wigs there still
refuses to use anyone but me, and he pays me well!

         

        Anyway I guess I walked into this one. :)

         

        With the SSL lisenses, how do you connect?

         

        Mike

         

________________________________

        From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 

        Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:53 AM 

        
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

         

        Nadda.

        Did your asa come with 3 ssl licenses? Mine did and that is what
I use.

        It will be interesting to see what they do with 64 bit 7.

         

        From: Owens, Michael [mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov] 
        Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:50 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Cisco VPN client on Vista 64 bit

         

        I think I remember seeing someone post about this a while
back... 

         

        Is there something that will connect to an ASA (preferebly free)
since apparently Cisco has never made (and has no intention of making) a
64 bit version of their client?

         

        I will accept limited juryrigging. :)

        
        
        I refuse to believe that Cisco has yet to come out with
something for 64bit operationg systems? Its been like 7 years?

         

         

        Thanks!

        Mike

         

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