It's far easier and more thorough to check GPOs with GPOtool.exe
(ResKit). AD can be replicating fine but if FRS is having issues so can
your GPO.

It will evaluate both the GPT (sysvol portion replicated by FRS) and the
GPC (AD portion replicated by DS replication) for any inconsistencies.
It can optionally check the sysvol ACL which can also be a problem
occasionally. 

I would run gpotool /checkacl from a system in the domain that is
encountering issues. That way you can rule out any inconsistencies with
the GPO plumbing on all the DCs before you start mucking around with
clients.



-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: group policy updating

If you right-click on the each of the DCs in replmon and choose "Show
Group Policy Object Status", do you see the same information for all
three Domain Controllers?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: group policy updating

One of the DCs is in a Warm site, the other two are virtualized in the
same server room.  All three of the DCs are listed in the same site in
AD Sites & Services.  Replmon is showing successful replication for
everything it lists.

>>> "Richard Stovall" <richard.stov...@researchdata.com> 9/9/2009 12:03
PM >>>
And you have no replication errors at all anywhere?  Are all your DCs in
the same site?  Is there anything complex or unusual about your AD
structure?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: group policy updating

I have now enabled verbose logging on one of the clients not working.
Under Debug\User Mode, there is a gpsvc file, showing group policy
stuff.  In this file, it doesn't show that the client ever found the
Member Server Policy, which contains the login banner.

However, when I run gpresult /S computername /V |more, it shows the
Member Server Policy listed under Computer Settings - Applied Group
Policy Objects.  But, again, if I scroll down through the report, it
shows the settings that were already part of the Member Server Policy,
but not the new changes I made yesterday.

This client I'm looking at now, is connecting to a DC that does have the
new settings in the policy under Sysvol. 

>>> "Richard Stovall" <richard.stov...@researchdata.com> 9/9/2009 10:55
AM >>>
Have you enabled verbose logging on the affected client(s)?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: group policy updating

For the most part, this has been the answer.  For some reason, one DC is
not accepting the changes that were made to the policy.

However, I now have an exception.  I have a 2K8 virtual box, that is
connecting to the DC that I made the changes to in GPMC.  The server
that is definitely showing the new additions to the policy.  This server
is not showing the updates under RSoP.  The gpupdate /force says it
worked successfully, and there were no errors in the Application log.
Normally, I would just wait for the change, but it has been almost a
full day now, without the change coming through.

Any other ideas?

>>> Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> 9/9/2009 9:17 AM >>>
If RSOP is not showing the setting, then check the DC that your client
is connecting to, to see what *it* thinks the policy should be (e.g.
load GPMC and target that DC). Verify that the relevant GPO objects in
sysvol are present on that particular DC.

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 September 2009 12:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: group policy updating

Application event log shows Event Code 1704:  Security policy in the
Group policy objects has been applied successfully.  However, running
rsop.msc following this does not show the new settings.  It does show
other settings from that GPO, but those were already in effect prior to
me adding the banner.

But the banner isn't coming up.  I'm guessing I'm going to have to
bounce the servers that aren't taking it, at this point, as there has
been plenty of time for policy updates, both manual by me, and
automatically through the system.

>>> Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> 9/8/2009 9:13 PM >>>
Check event logs for any GPO processing errors Check your DC replication
status to work out whether the GPO has actually replicated to the DCs
that these clients are talking to etc

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2009 5:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: group policy updating

Hmm, thanks Devin.  I tried that on one of the machines, and the two
settings in question are not showing as being defined at all, much less
by a group policy.  I don't think this is one of those changes that
requires a reboot, at least the gpupdate didn't indicate it.  I'll give
it some time, and check it again in the morning...

Thanks,



Joe L. Heaton

>>> Devin Meade <devin.me...@gmail.com> 9/8/2009 2:33 PM >>>
Try RSOP.MSC on the machine in question.

hth, Devin


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Joseph Heaton<jhea...@dfg.ca.gov> wrote:
> I'm updating a group policy, to add a login banner.  Some of the
machines in question had one, but they were added manually either to the
Local Security Policy, or directly to the registry.  I've gone in,
deleted any entries in these two locations, I've run gpupdate /force,
and logged out and back in.  When I do this, some machines show the
correct banner, and show it in Local Security Policy, grayed out, which
tells me it's getting it from GP.  Other machines don't seem to be
updating, even after sitting for a while.The successes and failures vary
from 2k3 to 2k8, physical, and virtual boxes.
>
> Anyone have any idea what I can look at to troubleshoot this?
>
> I've gone into GPMC, and run the Group Policy Results tool, using my
account on the boxes in question, and the results come back saying that
the desired group policy is supposed to be affecting it.
>
> Thanks,


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