I haven't had to do anything that detailed, and the native tools have
managed the time effectively at locations ranging from 50 users and 100
server, to multi-offices with a total of 400 servers and 4000 users.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker



On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Kennedy, Jim <kennedy...@elyriaschools.org
> wrote:

>  Jumping in late here but let me agree the time service is crap. Here is
> how I overcame it.
>
>
>
> I use our core Cisco router for the authoritative time source. It does a
> good job of keeping it’s clock current. I do not sync it outside I do it
> manually if I ever notice a time difference. Since starting to use it I have
> only had to do this once or twice in the last few years and that was due to
> power outages. You do have to config it to be a time server but it is easy.
> The PDC emulator points to it for its time source. GPO tells everyone else
> to use the standard windows hierarchy.
>
>
>
> Here is the key for us;  I set a scheduled task for every server, dc’s and
> member servers alike to stop and start the time service twice a day. Once at
> 6 am and once at 6 pm. That keeps them right on the money.
>
>
>
> Since doing that I have not had any issues for several years.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2009 11:45 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Why is Windows Time service crap?
>
>
>
> To follow up on what Ben and Bob have mentioned, you only want/need the DC
> with the PDCe role to get its time externally, and the other systems will
> get the time from that one.
>
> What I do then, is to run a script that sets the time server for all other
> systems to be blank.  (Actually, I let 2 DCs sync outside)
>
> The time for all my systems remains in sync (my logging script checks this
> every morning).
>
> I have not used an external NTP application for the better part of this
> decade.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
>
>  On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Free, Bob <r...@pge.com> wrote:
>
> [1] You configure the PDCe of the forest root to become the authoritative
> time source for your forest. There is a (fairly) strict hierarchy that is
> automagically maintained with the other DCs peering up to that one, DCs in
> child domains peering to their respective PDCe,  member servers and
> workstations peering up to their respective DCs. “You” don’t need to “point”
> anything to anything other than the root PDCe. I’d respectfully submit that
> there is something wrong in your configuration if things are that bad.
>
>
>
> Configure the Windows Time service on the PDC emulator 
> (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=91969
> )
>
>
>
> [2]Common issues I’ve seen are misconfiguration, firewall/network issues
> and users who have the user right to set system time.
>
>
>
> Configure a client computer for automatic domain time synchronization 
> (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=91376
> )
>
>
>
> I would have agreed with your sentiment in NT and actually ran the W32port
> of NTP on my DCs back than but for the vast majority of the >20K machines in
> my main forest w23time is sufficient. It has improved with every version of
> windows and the documentation is an order of magnitude better than it used
> to be. The biggest offset among my DCs today is +0.0128225s. We do have
> special use cases where we employ other methods but they are definitely the
> exception rather than the rule where a particular client needs millisecond
> accuracy..
>
>
>
> Windows Time Service Technical Reference
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773061(WS.10).aspx<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773061%28WS.10%29.aspx>
>
>
>
> I would start at the top and get all the DCs properly synched  and work
> your way down from there. What version of AD are you running?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2009 7:37 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Why is Windows Time service crap?
>
>
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I have workstations and servers in my domain whose time is all over the
> place!
>
> Two servers I manually sync'd with a domain controller less than 24 hours
> ago are now once again 3 minutes behind.
>
> Workstations are up to 5 minutes one way or the other.
>
> I know this keeps coming up here, but again, please...
>
> 1. With multiple domain controllers, does one pick one of them, sync to an
> outside time source, then somehow point the other DCs to this DC?  If so,
> then one puts in the name of the selected DC in the registry settings for
> time services?  OR, does one make sure all the DCs point to the same
> external NTP server?
>
>
> 2. Why do servers and workstations drift off, time-wise?  How to stop this?
>
> --
>
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
>
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