Or add another EqualLogic to your storage pool...

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Tim Vander Kooi <tvanderk...@expl.com>wrote:

>  I have to say from personal experience that if you are going to err, do
> it on the side of too much storage up front. I purchased a SAN not too long
> ago thinking it would last for years, only to find it filled to capacity in
> under 2 years. At this point, we also found out that their solution to
> adding more space was to dump the original and buy a “bigger better” system
> to replace it. I did in fact have to buy a new system to replace the old
> SAN, but this time went with EqualLogic which costs a little more up front,
> but gives me the peace of mind that I can just add more disk to it for years
> and years to come. I am willing, and able, to pay for that peace of mind as
> I find it to be worth more than the actual hardware over time.
>
> Tim
>
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:01 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: SAN solutions
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> The problem being solved is *not *merely the replication of 150GB of data.
>
> The problem, as I understand it, it to provide a stand-alone, but robust
> and redundant storage solution that can support current and future growth,
> where current needs are ~150GB and future needs are estimated at 3-5TB.
> The replication will be across the WAN.
>
> There are a number of ways to achieve this goal.  One of the things we've
> been recommending is to not overstate the storage needs of the next few
> years.   If growth is unpredictable, then spend more for a highly expandable
> chassis now.  If growth is more modest (and I believe that it will be,
> given the current needs), then get an appliance with some growth ability,
> but at a better price point.   When you need to get something else, the
> technology and pricing will be much better anyway.
>
> Some people will roll their own solution, and some will obtain the largest
> solution with expandability that money can by today.  And there are viable
> options in between.
>
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>  On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Mike Gill <lis...@canbyfoursquare.com>
> wrote:
>
> I’m very small time, but I like to think that after a little reading and
> pondering I can at least have a basic understanding around enterprise
> concepts, and why some things cost more. Sometimes, a lot more. But here I
> cannot. Can someone please enlighten me as to why there is a consideration
> to spend up to *forty thousand dollars* on replicating 150GB of data to
> two locations? This seems like such a completely small amount of data for
> such a price, even with having space for growth.
>
>
>
> --
> Mike Gill
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> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:27 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: SAN solutions
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> Well, I’m looking to off-load our storage to a dedicated storage appliance
> from our mirrored Dell servers. Currently we are using about 150 Gigs of
> drive space on the servers (again…mirrored for D/R purposes.)
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> I am looking at using iSCSI to connect the servers to the storage appliance
> to share the files out as if they were on the local drive. My estimated
> budget for this is about $30-40K for a pair of mirrored storage appliances.
> I would like to have one of the devices at a remote location for D/R
> purposes. Pretty much everyone has said that they think that can be done,
> even over a 5 Mbit VPN.
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> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:11 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: SAN solutions
>
>
>
> What is the budget you working with (or you believe you'll be constrained
> to?)
>
> That might help your selection process.
>
> You basically need to indicate the desired functionality, and the extent of
> your budget.    If they are in sync, then that will be better.  If not, then
> a recalibration in one direction or another will be necessary, and then the
> solutions will come from that.
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
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> *Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership*
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> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah… but I have a feeling that the Compellent solution may be lower cost.
> J I got an MSRP on an Equallogic system… $42K for a 5 Tb useable system…
> No way I’m going to be able to afford two of those to do D/R. L
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> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
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> *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:53 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: SAN solutions
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> *Lefthand (Bought by HP) and Equalogic (bought by Dell) play in this space
> as well. *
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> * *
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> *Thanks,*
>
> *Brian Desmond*
>
> *br...@briandesmond.com*
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> *c - 312.731.3132*
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> * *
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> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:28 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* SAN solutions
>
>
>
> Anyone know anything about a SAN manufacturer called Compellent? I just had
> a webinar with them and they seem like they’re pretty good. They have
> separate drive chassis and controllers, with the controller being
> essentially a server class machine. Anyway, just thought I’d ask in here if
> anyone had any experience with them.
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