Yep.  And I see that the class is held at select locations on select dates
making it even more unlikely that I'll get the cert any time soon.



On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

>  You have to sit a VMWare approved class and it's not pocket change, it's
> the only reason I haven't taken the test.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: Philip Brothwell
> *To*: NT System Admin Issues
> *Sent*: Mon Dec 21 17:24:39 2009
>
> *Subject*: Re: OT: Getting back into IT
>
> I already have ESXi 4.0 for lab and home use.  Not sure about getting a
> VCP.  Finding the time to sit in a class necessary to get the cert might be
> a bit tough.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Work from both ends. Get as much experience and education as you can. You
>> never know when you will need it. I will second the nomination for
>> anything
>> virtual, especially VMware.
>> All CEO's are thinking about or already virtualizing their environments
>> accoding to Gartner. Being a VCP I can say it is a good investment. There
>> is demand for good virtualization engineers.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: Philip Brothwell [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:12:25 -0500
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: OT: Getting back into IT
>>
>>
>>  Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Thank you.  I'll look into the certification groups you suggested.
>>  However,
>> I was really looking for a discussion group that was more like what this
>> one
>> is, a group of industry professionals who discuss real-world issues, not
>> how
>> to pass the exam.
>>
>> I know what you mean about certifications.  Personally, I think of
>> certifications primarily as a tool to get past HR departments.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Levicki
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Philip,
>> >
>> > I can help you with your online Cisco discussion group:
>> > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications
>> >
>> > Certainly helped me when I was studying for the CCNA.
>> >
>> > As regards how far to go with Microsoft or Cisco certification, it's up
>> to
>> > you, your mileage may vary etc. I know some great people who have never
>> > taken a vendor exam and I know some people who studied very hard for
>> exams
>> > but have no real knowledge or skills to speak of.
>> >
>> > Not sure that helps. I know others will have plenty to say about that
>> and
>> > your other questions...
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> > 2009/12/21 Philip Brothwell <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>>   >> Sorry for the off topic (if it is) post.  I am getting back into IT
>> full
>> >> time after doing it as a secondary job for a decade or so and I have a
>> >> number of questions.  My goal is to get the skills necessary to become
>> a
>> >> modern Systems Admin and/or Network Admin in the SMB market.
>> >>
>> >> I currently have both the MCSA and MCSE for Windows 2000 and a Cisco
>> >> CCENT.  I plan on updating the Microsoft certifications to their modern
>> >> counter parts and to take the Cisco certificate to at least to CCNA.
>>  Now
>> >> the questions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>    - Any recommendations for a good online Cisco discussion group?
>> >>    - For my target job, how high should I go in the Microsoft and Cisco
>> >>    certification tracks?
>> >>    - Other certifications?
>> >>    - Recommendations for training sources?
>> >>    - Recommendations for lab equipment?  I'm thinking a virtual server
>> >>    farm but real Cisco equipment.  Question is, which Cisco equipment.
>>  I
>> >>    already have a 871W that I got for the CCENT but it hurt as much as
>> it
>> >>    helped -- integrated routers have command sets that are similar, but
>> >>    different, from their non-integrated counterparts -- so I'm looking
>> for
>> >>    other equipment to train with.  Any suggestions?
>> >>    - Is TechNet still the best way to Microsoft lab software on the
>> >>    cheap?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think that covers it, at least for now. :-)
>> >>
>> >> Any help you be greatly appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> Phil Brothwell
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>  > --
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA
>> > [email protected]
>> > www.andrewlevicki.eu
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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