Good to know for sure, thanks

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: KMS count question

Thanks I think I found the answer on Technet:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd979804.aspx


KMS can activate both physical computers and virtual machines. To qualify for 
KMS activation, a network must meet the activation threshold: KMS hosts 
activate client computers only after meeting this threshold. To ensure that the 
activation threshold is met, a KMS host counts the number of computers that are 
requesting activation on the network. For computers running Windows Server 2008 
or Windows Server 2008 R2, the activation threshold is five. For computers 
running Windows Vista or Windows 7, the activation threshold is 25. The 
thresholds include client computers and servers that are running on physical 
computers or virtual machines.

A KMS host responds to each valid activation request from a KMS client with the 
count of how many computers have contacted the KMS host for activation. Clients 
that receive a count below their activation threshold are not activated. For 
example, if the first two computers that contact the KMS host are running 
Windows 7, the first receives an activation count of 1, and the second receives 
an activation count of 2. If the next computer is a Windows 7 virtual machine, 
it receives an activation count of 3, and so on. None of these computers is 
activated, because computers running Windows 7 must receive an activation count 
≥25 to be activated. KMS clients in the grace state that are not activated 
because the activation count is too low connect to the KMS host every two hours 
to get the current activation count and will be activated when the threshold is 
met.

If the next computer that contacts the KMS host is running Windows Server 2008 
R2, it receives an activation count of 4, because activation counts are a 
combination of computers running Windows Server 2008 R2 and Windows 7. If a 
computer running Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 receives an 
activation count that is ≥5, it is activated. If a computer running Windows 7 
receives an activation count ≥25, it is activated.



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Infrastructure Service Delivery
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

________________________________
From: tev...@sparling.com [mailto:tev...@sparling.com]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: KMS count question

I'm pretty sure it is a combined value. Once you have the 5 server licenses, 
you only need 20 more to start activating the clients. I've never seen it 
documented anywhere, but that's the way it seemed to work here


From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: KMS count question

I've got (2) KMS hosts on the network for activating Windows Server 2008 
systems. Up until now, we haven't had any Vista or Windows 7 systems to worry 
about. The desktop group is starting to test windows 7 and I will begin testing 
Windows 2008 R2 soon. I have updated the KMS keys on the hosts with the new 
keys that support Windows 2008 R2 and Windows 7. My question is regarding the 
count. It retained the count (10 in my case) so the Windows 2008 R2 systems I 
bring up should be activated right away (since the count is over 5). What I 
don't understand is where the 25 count for Windows 7 systems come into play. 
When I do a SLMGR.VBS /dli it shows me a count value. But it doesn't break it 
down between 2008 and Windows 7. So how will that increment? And is it a 
cumulative count of both OSs? So right now my count is 10, does that mean I 
need 15 Windows 7 systems in order to reach the 25? Or do I need 25 Windows 7 
systems, since none of the computers that have added to the count so far have 
been Windows 7?


Can someone clarify this for me? I have read all the Volume Activation 2.0 
guides and this topic is not very clear in the documentation.

Thank you,



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Infrastructure Service Delivery
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003






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