Like sell their own cable connection service... -----Original Message----- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
The seriousness of China and Iran's actions doesn't justify the word "attack". China and Iran ban them because they won't filter out search results that would give the people of those countries information the governments don't want them to have. Google used to "play ball" with China to filter results but recently quit doing so. And that's a good thing, even if it loses them the China or Iran business. They have plenty to do otherwise. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Plus, do a little digging and you'll see some serious Google connections to the US gov't. They're protected. Why do you think countries like China and Iran are banning them? Its a direct attack on the US. -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are "too big to fail" and now also "too big to be wrong"? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for "throw-away" addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m....@gmail.com, c........h.o........u.s.......e.m......a. n...@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ "+" ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman <c.house...@gmail.com> wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: ---------------------------- From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. <snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist> ---------------------------- So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
