Ah ha.
Missed that.  Knowing Cisco, I doubt they have such and upgrade for any
of their phones.

-----Original Message-----
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)

Yes, however those are full-fledged handsets. I was leaning in the
direction of a Gigabit switch module (designed specifically to work with
the phone) that would upgrade an older non GigE phone without having to
replace the handset.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)

Cisco has several.
7941G-GE, 7971G-GE, 7945G and I'd guess others.

-----Original Message-----
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)

Well, that depends on the phones you're using.

Mitel has a GigE option for their phones without having to replace the
phone itself:

http://www.mitel.com/DocController?documentId=19404

We've been running converged for 4 years without issue, and I have some
imaging apps that are very network intensive, connected through our
Mitel phones.

Avaya offers an adapter as well:

http://www.phonelady.com/700416985n.html

I didn't find such on Cisco's site, but I would be surprised if they
didn't have such.



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-----Original Message-----
From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)

It would be as simple as replacing the phones, but it's nowhere near as
cheap as running a second cable.

It's amazing how many companies go with the cheaper option at the start
only to spend x times the cost to do it right in the future.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Andrew S. Baker" <asbz...@gmail.com>
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Date:
12/03/2010 15:41
Subject:
Re: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)



And this is precisely one of the problems that we have.   The number of
lines they will agree to run is constrained because of the desire to go
converged.  That means when the needs grow (such as backups of each
desktop, which is a planned option for the Macintosh systems on the
network), there will be "fun".

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:35 AM, tony patton <
tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com> wrote:
The only problem I have, is unless the phones support gigabit passthru,
the desktop will only get 100Mb connection to the network.
Only really becomes an issue when transferring large files, but still an
issue.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
"Glen Johnson" <gjohn...@vhcc.edu>
To:
"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Date:
12/03/2010 15:33
Subject:
RE: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)



I wouldn?t lobby against it.
Just set up proper QOS and you should be good to go.
Unless you?ve got a very good reason not to converge, doing so will make
your life easier.  Fewer switches and cables to maintain.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pros & Cons of Converged Networks (Voice / Data)

I am not a huge fan of converged networks, although I will acknowledge
the
cost savings in many instances.

I have a situation where we were planning to keep the data traffic and
voice traffic separate, and all of a sudden (11th hour) that changed.

*If* you were going to lobby against converging a network for 30-50
people
on a floor that is being built out, what justification would you use?

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker





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