No sign of it where I live (Gainesville Fl) either and like you I'm out on the 
fringe (I probably live just about as far out from town you can get and still 
have a G'ville phone #) so it probably won't arrive in this decade.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell     (352) 215-6944
Fax     (352) 393-2746
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From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: National broadband

Central Florida/Lakeland.  I was originally told, in December 2008, that they 
were slowing up the roll out due to the economy.  Since we are very rural they 
did not want to spend the money when they were NOT getting the sales they were 
hoping for.  That was per their sales people.  Since then it seems that the 
same people, their sales people, have changed their tune.  They were getting 
upset as it became apparent that it was more where they were rolling out the 
service that was causing low sales.  They pushed out service into areas that 
did not already have copper in place.  Verizon was not rolling out the service 
into more developed areas or older/established neighborhoods.  You can't sell 
if there are no homes/people to sell to.  I have not seen any new work being 
done in a lot of my area since December 2008.  The only work I do see is when 
the state/county begins to work on the roads and Verizon is very quick to get 
out and mark where their fiber is.

Jon
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
<scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
Where are you at?

This is the first I've ever heard of Verizon de-emphasizing FIOS ...

-sc

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com<mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:26 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: National broadband

I only wish FIOS was available for my place.  It is across the road from me and 
Verizon has stopped pushing it out locally.  When I have talked to their 
sales/service people they are not happy either.  Sales complains about not 
getting any sales potentials and service because they are running into problems 
supporting the aging wire infrastructure as well as they have been trained on 
working with fiber and not getting to do any work to stay current/keep in 
practice.  Both have had people complain to me about it being like me just a 
little ways away and not getting it either.

Jon
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
<scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
My Verizon FIOS business class service is $160/mo for 15Mbps up/down and
5 static IP's (all usable).

-sc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com<mailto:npar...@mortonind.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:10 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> Ha, Regional Cable Co in my little podunk town of 1000 (of when we've
had
> DSL, Wireless, and Cable services for years) wants $250/month for a
> "Business Plan" with static IP's.  Same plan I had for a remote
warehouse
> with Comcast was $80.  When I told them that they just said it's what
we've
> always charged and isn't going to change.  I just use DSL and no-ip to
redirect
> my entire domain to my basement.  Email, web,
> etc all work great.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich 
> [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> As Steven Caesare said it would be nice to have a static IP at a
reasonable
> price without a whole bunch of restrictions. Unfortunately Windstream
> deems a static IP to be part of a "business" plan and wants me to pay
over
> $100 / month just for DSL (NOT counting voice services,
> etc) for 3 useable static IPs (5 total, IIRC -- 2 of the 5 are for
their use - one for
> the modem, I think and one for the broadcast.)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hornbuckle 
> [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> Talking about no-brainers... In my area, DSL used to be the only
broadband
> option. Eventually, the cable company started offering faster access
for the
> same price. Do you think the local telco lowered their DSL rates,
though?
> Nope. I guess they figured folks would keep paying the same price for
slower
> speeds.
>
> They recently filed for bankruptcy protection.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich 
> [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:49 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> Well, just checked and my ISP has 6 Mbit internet available for the
same price
> I'm paying for 3 Mbit. No brainer here... I just ordered an upgrade.
:-)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich 
> [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:31 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> Geez! I'd be more than happy with 10-15Mbit speed, or even a "true" 6
Mbit.
> I don't have that option, AFAIK, with my ISP.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hg [mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com<mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:03 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> I always wonder the same thing. I even mentioned to two family members
> that there was an even lower unpublished tier available that would
save then
> $20/month and after they changed to it they mentioned there was no
> noticeable difference.
>
> Always on, reasonably low latency and a couple Mb speed works for a
lot of
> folks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov<mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> I agree John.  My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the
most part.
> My Comcast connection at 6-12 Mb is just fine for that.  I'm not
running a
> business out of my home or anything.
>
> What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, that would need
> 50 - 100 Mbps down, and 50ish Mbps up?
>
> >>> John Hornbuckle 
> >>> <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>>
> >>>  3/17/2010 11:08
> >>> AM >>>
> I feel like such a neoluddite... I get 10-15Mbps at home via cable
modem, and
> honestly that's plenty fast for 99% of what I do.
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com<mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
>
> From what I gathered from this site, they just want to release the
capping
> the ISP's do on the available bandwidth for the customers, not
necessarily
> allow Internet for all citizens.  ISP's truly have a large amount of
bandwidth
> available to consumers, yet to control pricing and overhead they cap
speeds
> and gradually release them on an accounting-time-period-basis.
>
> I have AT&T at my home, and the highest Mbps down available is 24Mbps,
> but compared to a year ago, its twice as fast.  So it just happened to
be
> available now instead of last year?
>
> If I were to pay $65/month for 100Mbps/50Mbps, I would gladly do it.
So
> long as it's available.  Knowing it's available yet being restricted
is what is
> irritating.
>
>
> Jay Dale
> I.T. Manager, 3GiG
> Mobile: 713.299.2541
> Email: 
> jay.d...@3-gig.com<mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com><mailto:kandy.luk...@3-gig.com<mailto:kandy.luk...@3-gig.com>>
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> From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com<mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
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> I could run a cable up to you from our OC3... ;-)
>
> From: Jeff Johnson 
> [mailto:jjohn...@hydraflowusa.com<mailto:jjohn...@hydraflowusa.com>]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: National broadband
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> Though I would love to see the US and all broadband providers give us
better
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>
> If I look at my home service, 24 Mbps down and 1.5 up, is running $65.
> That is pretty cheap, but still a LONG way from 100/50 Mbps.  I am
really
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100
> Mbps service, but have no idea what the price would be.
> Considering 3 Mbps service is costing me $530 for a business line, I
would not
> even want to consider the price.
>
>
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> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: National broadband
>
> Thoughts, comments?
>
> http://www.broadband.gov/
> David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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