I've been looking at Drupal Gardens. Any thoughts on them? Too new?

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Web Content Management Systems

I'll say this about my hosting experiences with Drupal:

Not all hosting solutions are created equally.

Drupal, and I assume Joomla, are very database intensive.  Each page that's 
rendered makes numerous calls to the database.  I host my personal Drupal sites 
on 1&1, and they are a tad slow, but it's fine for my needs.  When building the 
Specs Howard site, we started with Start Logic, and they were HORRIBLE.  I 
don't think their databases were optimized at all, and they said there was no 
optimization they would/could offer.  Blue Host has been fantastic for them.

Mind you, these are all based on shared hosting accounts ranging from
$6 - $11 per month.  Like all things, I assume you get what you pay for, for 
the most part.

On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:13 AM, John Hornbuckle wrote:

> Drupal and Joomla are the two I seem to be hearing the most about in 
> researching this topic.
>
> I'm also considering moving to a hosted solution... Hosting websites 
> really isn't a core competency of ours.
>
>
>
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Web Content Management Systems
>
> I don't have any experience with Joomla, other than knowing it's a 
> competitor of Drupal.  I think it's like choosing between cable 
> television providers.  They're both going to give you about the exact 
> same channels, for roughly the same price.  You'll probably like the 
> look and feel of one more than the other, and make your choice based 
> on that.
>
> And it seems people choose one camp or the other to work with.  I have 
> no negative feelings toward Joomla.  I just don't care to learn it at 
> all right now because Drupal has suited my every need so far.
>
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Terry Dickson wrote:
>
>> Eric, Thanks for the info.  We have recently had a consultant 
>> pitching us on using Joomla to build our website.  Do you have any 
>> experience or comparisons in how Joomla compares to Drupal?  I have 
>> heard they are very comparable.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:45 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: Web Content Management Systems
>>
>> My company specializes in developing Drupal based websites 
>> (drupal.org).  It's an open source CMS, that is extendable through 
>> numerous contributed themes and modules.  The latest site we did was 
>> for a local college. (specshoward.edu)
>>
>> Pros
>> Tons of contributed functionality.
>> Easy to setup.
>> PHP based.
>> Highly customizable.
>> Free.
>>
>> Cons
>> To be honest, I really haven't found any.  I've been able to find 
>> existing code for almost anything we wanted to do.  I just tweak from 
>> there.
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:38 AM, John Hornbuckle wrote:
>>
>>> We don't currently use a web content management system-we're using 
>>> old-fashioned hand-coded HTML for our web content (although I've 
>>> found myself offloading an increasing amount of content to 3rd 
>>> parties like Flickr and YouTube). I like the control this gives us 
>>> over the minutiae, but I've come to realize that level of control is 
>>> less important than having abilities such as easily managing content 
>>> and painlessly overhauling the look and feel of the site. Plus, I'm 
>>> the guy responsible for our website, but I'm not a web developer by 
>>> any stretch of the imagination--and coding websites has grown a lot 
>>> more complex since the days of <blink></blink> when I started. I 
>>> have too many hats to wear to get the requisite expertise for 
>>> today's websites.
>>>
>>> So, I'm looking for feedback from others (especially any school 
>>> districts / educational entities out there)... What web CMS are you 
>>> guys using, and what are the pros/cons of it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Hornbuckle
>>> MIS Department
>>> Taylor County School District
>>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Eric Brouwer
>> IT Manager
>> www.forestpost.com
>> er...@forestpost.com
>> 248.855.4333
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> Eric Brouwer
> IT Manager
> www.forestpost.com
> er...@forestpost.com
> 248.855.4333
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
> NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written 
> communications to or from this entity are public records that will be 
> disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail 
> communications may be subject to public disclosure.
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
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>


Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





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