+10 Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse brevity & any misspellings. ----- Reply message ----- From: "Don Guyer" <don.gu...@prufoxroach.com> Date: Wed, Sep 8, 2010 3:05 pm Subject: Mac and Windows mix To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Me=Migraine edition Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com<mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com> From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix I just want to go back to the days of Windows Me. Things were so much easier then… Shook From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix >From personal experience. I haven’t had a *lot* to do with Windows 2000, but I >did work with several NT boxes at a previous employer. Maybe it was just the >software we were using (and it *has* been several years) but IIRC, you pretty >much had to be an admin to do anything on those boxes. Same goes for 2000. At >least the default config. I guess things might have been able to be tweaked, >but on the default install it was pretty difficult to do anything if you >weren’t an admin. [cid:image001.jpg@01CB4F67.2660E060][cid:image002....@01cb4f67.2660e060] From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix If you accept/trust the advice on this list, why do you cling to your ill-founded assertion in the face of all the evidence to the contrary? On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote: The fact that it was darn difficult to do much of anything without admin privileges? IMHO, Windows XP was the first full 32-bit O/S designed as a “desktop OS”. [cid:image001.jpg@01CB4F67.2660E060][cid:image002....@01cb4f67.2660e060] From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mac and Windows mix And what, exactly, made Windows 2000 Workstation more of a "server" O/S? ASB (My XeeSM Profile)<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker> Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote: Strictly NT. Windows 2000 was much more “user friendly” but was, IMO, more of a “server” O/S, even W2K Workstation. [cid:image001.jpg@01CB4F67.2660E060][cid:image002....@01cb4f67.2660e060] From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Funny, it was my user OS since pre-beta. Are you speaking of the NT “family”, or strictly the versions of the same codebase named “NT”? -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix True… but NT was not a “user” operating system. :) [cid:image001.jpg@01CB4F67.2660E060][cid:image002....@01cb4f67.2660e060] From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended). That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released version (v3.1 back in 1993) Cheers Ken From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>] Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in “userspace” unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of software. [cid:image001.jpg@01CB4F67.2660E060][cid:image002....@01cb4f67.2660e060] From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix What do you understand that model to be? -sc From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com<mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix Not to start a flame war or anything, but I was under the impression that Mac OS/X was significantly *more* secure than a comparable Windows machine, due to the *nix security model? Asking for information here, trying to learn, not trying to start a Mac Vs. 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