Those are easy to deal with, one key stroke <delete>. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>wrote:
> Part of me thinks extra marks for effort – in a strange way it shows more > time has gone into it than an email CV bombed to 20 different places. > > > > My own pet hate is people who send in Publisher documents. > > > > *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] > *Sent:* 15 September 2010 15:48 > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Resume's > > > > The most memorable resume I ever received was hand written on lined paper > torn from a spiral bound notebook. I still can’t believe we got it. > > > > -Paul > > > > *From:* Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:35 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Resume's > > > > Also a hiring manager (in fact I'm hiring someone this week): > > - Two pages max. Oh you can send me your 4 page resume, but I won't really > ready past page two and I might just toss yours for being overly verbose. I > am also a long-term, rabid follower of the www.manager-tools.com [1] > podcasts/website, but I disagree with their 1 page resume for Technical > positions. > - For $diety's sake people Spel Chunk and profred your resume. Then have 3 > other people beside your mom/wife/girlfriend read it...outloud. > - Don't put an objective on your resume. You're wasting valuable space and > it means nothing. > - For each position your bullet points should be accomplishment and results > focused statements. Don't put "Managed Exchange stuff" on there. But rather > reword it into something that shows you did something concrete for the > company either through efficiencies, savings, improved productivity, etc. > For example (and of course always tell the truth) "Designed and deployed > Exchange messaging system that consistently provided 99.99% availability > measured on an annual basis. Responded to all requests for > adds/moves/changes for users at 100% within the defined SLA's" > - Related to the point above If you aren't measuring "stuff" > (stuff=performance metrics, up-time, user help desk response rates/times, > etc.) start measuring it. Even if your management team doesn't care about > it, you measure it anyway. > - Did I mention spel chunking and profreading yet? > - Cover letter, yes you need one, no matter what. I get cover letters on > maybe 20% of the resumes submitted. I read 100% of the ones with cover > letters. Without a cover letter you might get as little as 15-20 seconds of > me reading your resume. > - While I personally applaud you for contributing to the community, I > usually don't want to see that you were a "Northampton County Farm Safety > Day Volunteer[2]". Now if you participate in something industry related, or > it shows a very specific skill (for example you sit on the board of a local > charity and are trying to show management skills). > - If you want to include a Technical Skills section, please put it near the > end, not at the beginning. And include only stuff that people have heard of. > I don't care if you're proficient in some software package that manages > crushed grape sugar levels unless I hiring you to work at a winery. And if > you list it, you darn well better have at least an intermediate level of > mastery of that Tech Skill. There WILL be a quiz. You watching Bob the > Coworker install vSphere 4.0 does not count as a Technical Skill. Oh, and > cut the stupid crap like listing NetBIOS and NeiBEUI. That means virtually > nothing, and if I do decide to quiz you on that I bet you fail and roll over > and wet yourself. > > I wrote a couple of Blog posts a few years ago on getting yourself hired > (or not getting hired). Feel free to check them out here. > http://hampshire.wordpress.com/category/jobs-and-hiring/ > > Finally while these are thoughts that I've personally developed over the > years, it turns out that a significant number of other IT Managers that I've > shared these with all concur. YMMV. > > [1] Even if you not a technical manager, subscribe to their Podcasts. Your > career will thank you. > [2] This was an actual verbatim bullet point. > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gary Slinger <gary.slin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Nope. The more senior the position, the shorter the actual resume gets. > > Oh, and FWIW - I'm a hiring manager. I won't read your 4 page resume. I > might, at interview, but you'd never get that far. > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Sam Cayze" <sam.ca...@rollouts.com> > > *Date: *Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:23:23 -0500 > > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > > > *Subject: *RE: Resume's > > > > At first I gawked when I read **9** page resume, but then read on, and > agree with how you did it. IMO (and many others) – *for sure have* that > info avail, on request or as a separate attachment. I would say: A cover > letter, a 1-4 page resume *TOPS*, portfolio/addenda, which also includes > letters of recommendation, documentation examples, references, etc… > > > > A nice portfolio like this, put together well, shows of your seriousness > and organizational skills. During an interview, it also gives the > interviewer plenty of pieces of paper to fumble through while they awkwardly > stumble for things to talk about… > > > > Any resumes themselves in the 3-4 page range should be for senior executive > positions only. > > > > Sam > > > > *From:* MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:31 PM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Resume's > > > > One or two line summary followed by bullet points and everything should be > in chronological order. IT resumes aren't that hard to read depending > on the format used to describe your particular skillset and the job you're > seeking. So I say don't pay anyone unless you're desperate. I suggest > posting here first as I'm sure someone would gladly critique it for you. My > resume is currently up to 9 pages and filled with mostly redundant info > from jobs spanning the last 5 years. I don't list any contracts lasting less > than three (3) months and I keep a trimmed copy that's forwarded to hiring > managers when needed. I present the 9-page booklet during the interview > where I'm given the opportunity to expand on what's listed because no one > wants to read through all of the gibberish. > > > gl > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Gary Slinger <gary.slin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Keep the drafts/full versions - those are your career management documents. > Just don't expect a hiring manager to read them :) > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"William J. Robbins" <dangerw...@gmail.com> > > *Date: *Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:56:48 +0000 > > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > > *Subject: *Re: Resume's > > > > Yeah I'm working on cutting mine down drastically. I'm at 3 pages. :P > > > WJR > - from my Crackberry. > > "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Gary Slinger" <gary.slin...@gmail.com> > > *Date: *Tue, 14 Sep 2010 23:38:35 +0000 > > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > > *Subject: *Re: Resume's > > > > Present! > > Seriously, that's good stuff to manage by, and therefore to use as a guide > from the other side. > > One-pager ideal, two-pages at the outside. > ------------------------------ > > *From: *William Robbins <dangerw...@gmail.com> > > *Date: *Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:11:53 -0500 > > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > > *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > > > *Subject: *Re: Resume's > > > > http://www.manager-tools.com/podcasts/manager-tools?filter0=30 > > I love these guys, thanks again to that Corona Light drinking Limey b...@stard > ! > > - WJR > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 16:59, Joseph L. Casale <jcas...@activenetwerx.com> > wrote: > > I have an opportunity coming up and want to make a decent looking resume > but really don’t know what’s currently the accepted format etc. > > > > Anyone have any pointers or examples they wouldn’t mind sharing? I’d be > eternally grateful! > > Thanks, > > jlc > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ------------------------------ > *MIRA Ltd* > > Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England > Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 > VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 > > The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of > the intended recipient. 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