Yup, And FF is prohibitively expensive in small environments, but it is my favorite. Most reliable I have ever used, _never_ had an FP or a dead machine or a bad dat. Its detection rates aren't quite as good as the top guys but you compromise I guess.
Right now, I am keen on Sophos for the multiplatform agent. Their console appears ok, it appears their agent is an exe so the method they use to install the agent by GPO is a startup scrip, not cool:( Avira has a Postfix compatible MTA product and a Squid compatible (by ICAP) product which is cool. I like how they don't distinguish clients (file servers vs. desktops in licensing terms). I have yet to see their console though. Thanks for everything guys, jlc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 4:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: AV Opinions Or Vipre, because Joseph has already indicated that he's familiar with them. He's looking for other recommendations... ASB On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Ryan Finnesey <ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com<mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com>> wrote: No one as commented on the Forefront products. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com<mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions We thought their management sucked too. Their SALES management, that is. :) From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net<mailto:rz...@qwest.net>] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions We thought pretty much everything about their management sucked, including agents. From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com<mailto:adav...@cls-services.com>] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions Hmmm ... my comments were more around the ability to manage/control agents than how nice the console was to use. Also, on the additional functionality side, their local FW and software NAC components were very immature feature wise. Support varied - UK support a million times better than the out of hours US support! a ________________________________ From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net<mailto:rz...@qwest.net>] Sent: 07 October 2010 12:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions That's interesting, because we absolutely hated McAfee and it's enterprise console, and couldn't wait to get rid of it. We've ended up with significantly better coverage with Sophos than we ever did with McAfee. From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com<mailto:adav...@cls-services.com>] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions Sophos seem to be excellent detection wise. As for not detecting Conficker below, that'll have been another issue as there is no AV product out there that can't detect it. If I had to guess, perhaps one host was infected and locked out AD, but all the Sophos alerts were from machines missing MS08-067 that were "getting infected" because the OS could not protect against it, but immediately cleaned by Sophos. Certainly behaviour I've seen before. You must patch Windows, AV can do everything on its own. One negative comment about Sophos - they are still, in my opinion, very low down the pecking order in Enterprise Management. They have a long, long way to catch up on McAfee and the like for agent management, alerting, mandatory policies, etc. You can work around these things and it's a great AV product, but if you're a large, sensitive environment, it may frustrate you a little. Going from 7 to 9 didn't improve these grumbles much ... a ________________________________ From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com<mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com>] Sent: 07 October 2010 08:12 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions We run Sophos here, and it seems to do a reasonable job. Corporate IS got caught last year with their pants down after a departmental server without any AV on it (or seriously out of date - guess someone got a good telling off for that) managed to get Conficker. Given we don't have a direct net connection to our deskstops or services network, they had not bothered to install the hotfixes to prevent this For what ever reason Sophos did not detected it, and quite a few machines got infected, and a couple of thousand user accounts got locked out. Took them a few days to get things under control - I wrote a little ldap tool to monitor the number of locked out user accounts :-) Sophos is a bit of a memory hog (not sure how it compares to other versions), taking around 150MB (savservice.exe alone is taking 108MB on my machine currently). We are currently using 7.6.20 tht, Matt ________________________________ From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com<mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com>] Sent: 07 October 2010 01:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions Give Sophos a long look. I firmly believe they are the best of breed that nobody seems to talk about. They don't market to the non-corporate crowd, so that probably has something to do with it. I asked this list and a few other resources when I was evaluating solutions. I did not hear from a single person using Sophos that did not like it. We are replacing Symantec with Sophos right now and it is going very well so far. Sophos will sync with AD (if you want) to automatically protect computers when you add them. It will remove Symantec cleanly (so far on about 25 test/pilot users it has been perfect) when pushing it out. It includes device control (want to block USB storage devices...2-3 clicks and you are done), a NAC component, and a firewall. It also includes clients for Mac/Linux and with each corporate license, you get a free at-home license. NFI - just a very satisfied customer so far. Jim ________________________________ From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com<mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com>] Sent: Wed 10/6/2010 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: AV Opinions At one of the shops that I look after, I have been asked to change the AV to something new and current. Vipre and Forefront excluded (I know enough about those already), what else are you guys using that's good? It's been a while since I looked at all the other vendors, I have such little time to eval for this need, I can't just download all vendors packages and trial each one for 30 days, I need to look at one and hopefully get it right:( Thanks for any opinions, jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin