You're better of using more and smaller TS VM's per host. Given that SMP is
a lie with todays Nehalem cpus, which are actually NUMA, scheduling a 4vcpu
or larger VM will take more resources from the host. Might not be noticable
if the host isn't loaded but also see the flexibility point that Andrew
makes.

-Anders

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:03 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:

>  Andrew this is actually my thinking. Licensing is quite cheap (under $2K
> for 100 seats), a purchase req got submitted this week - I am fortunate that
> $2K is quite small beans in light of the other costs of this move.
>
> My next question is - given an 8CPU 64Gb RAM host system (times two), does
> it make sense to have more than 1 TS Server VM per physical host? ESX is the
> VM host softwware, so I don't know if it make sense to have 1 monster 64-bit
> VM per physical system or have 2-3 per. I'm thinking one big TS VM per side
> saves overhead of additional VM systems.
>
> Thoughts, comments? I do have the 2008 TS Resource Kit and while excellent,
> it doesn't cover VM's thoroughly enough to answer that question.
>
> I have TS Web access working internaly, and a basic TS 2K8 server up, the
> practice I don't have is TS Gateway. I think I can get there in 3-4 weeks
> and have some testing time, but we'll see...
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Terminal Server or VPN?
>
>  Sometimes you don't really have a choice, as it makes good business sense
> to allow it.
>
> A VPN can be configured to allow appropriate-only access.  It does not have
> to be synonymous with a free-for-all connection.
>
> The TS solution has licensing implications, as well.  Hopefully, 5 weeks is
> enough time for you to get the nuances of this solution in place.  I would
> recommend ensuring that the VPN is a viable plan B, in case there are some
> issues.  I can almost foresee that you'll be supporting both on the 17th...
>
>
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>
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Malcolm Reitz <malcolm.re...@live.com>wrote:
>
>>  I would never, ever, allow non-company-managed PCs to connect to our
>> VPN. As you think, that’s just asking for all kinds of trouble.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since most of your home users won’t have MS Office on their home PCs,
>> they’ll get more done if you give them TS access to your standard corporate
>> suite of applications. I’m not sure how you could give the users RDP to
>> their actual desktop PCs if the PCs are in a moving van headed to your new
>> offices.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Malcolm
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2010 15:17
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Terminal Server or VPN?
>>
>>
>>
>> In a few weeks (Dec 17th) we’ll be having a massive “work from home” day
>>  (200-ish users, because we’re moving our office to a different city) and we
>> have the option of standing up some Terminal Servers or just running with
>> VPN. Most users are expected to just want MS Office apps and Internet
>> Explorer. Several (a couple dozen) will also want RDP access to their
>> desktops.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have 3 TS servers now (1 2K8, 2 W2K3) but have the capability to stand
>> up more 2008 TS servers. I have no experience setting up TS farms or getting
>> them available for ability to his via Internet, although both of these
>> appear to be pretty straightforward. I am also under the impression that TS
>> via Internet uses less bandwidth than a straight-up VPN connection.
>>
>>
>>
>> VPN is already established but we’ll certainly have many users using their
>> home PC that don’t currently have VPN configured and would much rather have
>> them connect via Terminal Server than install, configure and then connect an
>> unknown system  - from a security/patched/AV standpoint - to VPN.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it’s kind of six of one half dozen of another as far as overall
>> effort, but I REALLY don’t want unmanaged home PC’s connecting via VPN…
>>
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>>
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