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Except, I see today that Verizon is cancelling its "new every 2" program. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? And evidently Evernote is being updated to Windows Phone so it will be there when you come back :) On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Rod Trent <rodtr...@myitforum.com> wrote: Yeah, I miss OneNote. But, EverNote does a good job on Android. From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: What's Your Phone? Well, one update that is rumored as 'soon' (this month) that will add the copy/paste feature and some bug fixes and the next that is rumored to be a feature release update that the guess mongers are thinking a little later this year, perhaps timed with a software developer conference :) Of course, this is all rumor at this point. I still love my Windows Phone. OneNote FTW! Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:56 PM, John Hornbuckle <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote: The WP7 platform is structured differently from WinMo, and Microsoft is supposed to be able to push updates directly to devices. There's a rumor that carriers can block one update, but can't block two in a row. We'll find out soon enough; apparently Microsoft has two updates in the works for the very near future. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? I suspect the same thing will happen with WP7, but I could be wrong. WinMob had the same problem and it was up to the device manufacturer to release an update after testing with the specific devices. -----Original Message----- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? Android has performed admirably, but that platform has no solution to the fragmentation problem. As I mentioned earlier, when I was doing my research for a new phone I was blown away by how many different versions of Android were floating around out there. Every phone seemed to be running a different version, and most devices couldn't be updated to the latest versions as Google released them. That's the Android platform's only really big weakness that I'm aware of, but it was enough to push me to WP7. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? The unfortunate thing for the Windows device is that a single setback (bug, customer issue, etc.) will destroy the line. There's not enough fanatics for WP7 like there are for the iPhone, who will overlook the large number of Apple screw-ups over the last year because the device is pretty. I was an avid WinMob supported since the original "Pocket PCs" were released. I just recently moved to Android (in February 2010) after using one WinMob device after another for over 10 years and then immediately started slapping myself for waiting so long. WP7 looks nice. I was particularly impressed with the Zune interface on the Zune and wished Microsoft would migrate that experience to a phone. Microsoft's intent was to be an iPhone competitor, which they have done. However, while they were developing with that in mind, Android has increased market share and looks to overtake the competition in the very near future. And, with the iPhone coming to Verizon shortly, WP7 really doesn't have a great chance. Unless RIM does something significant, you won't hear from them in 5 years or so. I really hope that WP7 does become something I can invest time and money in again. I'd switch back if there was a solid reason because I sincerely hate that I have to rely on Google <shudder> services so much for Android devices. I am not a Google fan but the Android OS (IMO) is the best experience available right now for my situation. -----Original Message----- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? I'm not so sure. When I say "down the road," I don't mean years. It just may happen sooner than many people think. If WP7 had started off with a boatload of problems and tepid reviews, I'd think MS was in trouble. That's not the case, though. My WP7 phone is as stable as can be--it just plain works, day after day. I certainly couldn't say the same for the Windows Mobile device I had before it (a Tilt 2). And the Metro UI has gotten quite a few positive reviews for being a fresh new way of looking at information. I agree with those reviews, and find the UI to be quite pleasing. It's easy to use and visually appealing. So from that standpoint, WP7 is ready to compete right now. Apps are an area where iPhone has a big advantage, of course. But this is where WP7 is surprising a lot of people (it has certainly surprised ME). The phone went on sale in the U.S. in November with a handful of apps in the Marketplace--many of which Microsoft had subsidized the creation of in order to seed things. Now, at the start of January, there are well over 5,000 apps available. You can see the stats visualized here: http://wp7applist.com/stats/ Developers are starting to realize that this platform has legs. John -----Original Message----- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? See I think you nailed it with your "down the road" statement. By the time "down the road" finally gets here it will be to late for them, if it isn't already. Don't get me wrong, until my Incredible I was die hard Windows Mobile user from the beginning. But it's obvious for a long time now that Apple and now Google are doing things to get market penetration that Microsoft can't seem to figure out. I think it's mostly to do with ease of access to apps and making the phone easy to use for the non-technically oriented person. Yet still giving us geeks the ability to hack the phones to pieces. -----Original Message----- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: What's Your Phone? Windows Phone 7 here. And let me take a moment to shamelessly plug it... The WP7 platform is pretty nice! It will absolutely give the iOS and Android platforms real competition down the road. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ----- Reply message ----- From: "Roger Wright" <rhw...@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2011 4:00 pm Subject: OT: What's Your Phone? 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