*crickets* On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Jonathan <ncm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very interesting.... > > We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 > nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like > what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our > own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering. > [1] > > We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I > guess everything is relative.) :-) > > Jonathan > > [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and > eyerolls now...) > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: > > Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is infinitely > > more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? Vipre > is > > on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third but > I > > am open to nixing them in favor of something else. > > > > > > > > %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from > home, > > multiple SAN’s, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah… > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > > > > > > > Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new over > > specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory but > > even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. > > > > > > > > I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when > downloaded > > expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. > > > > > > > > And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave you > > with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve > performance. > > > > > > > > It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, again > > there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be > > disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only after > teh > > damage was done. > > > > > > > > Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve them. > 5 > > - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the problems. > > The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different product. > > > > > > > > I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping > selling > > their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who > wanted > > to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. > > > > > > > > They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling and > I > > keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales figures > > time. > > > > > > > > YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my > > company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: > > > > Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. Small > > environment though, 55 systems, fairly “clean” clients and just two > sites. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > Cc: Steven Peck > > Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > > > > > > > Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. > > > > > > > > It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan > > overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from 5 to > 6, > > > > > > > > Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very > happy > > > > > > > > Graeme > > > > > > > > On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Here we go > > http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ > > > > Steven Peck > > http://www.blkmtn.org > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill <lis...@canbyfoursquare.com> > > wrote: > > > > Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about > > virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. > > > > > > > > Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for an > > alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn’t > available. > > I’m not sure what they’re trying to sell, but they like saying cloud over > > and over. J > > > > > > > > -- > > Mike Gill > > > > > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > > > > > > > It’s 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems to > work > > OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option to > > update from the local Trend machine or from Trend’s servers). > > > > > > > > Seems to me they’re using “cloud” to mean “clients update from us and not > > your local server”. 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