It's not just his ego that's insufferable......

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:06 PM, William Robbins <dangerw...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Don't encourage -sc...his ego is insufferable as it is.  ;)
>
>  - WJR
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 15:51, Jonathan <ncm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 SC is dead on here. Match the voltage (and the polarity, if DC), and
>> match or exceed the current rating (amps) or the power rating (watts) and
>> you'll be fine. Typically (for barrell connectors, anyway, you'll find that
>> the size of the connector has to do with the voltage and or amperage of the
>> supply.
>>
>> On a related note, I always appreciate when one of my computer geek
>> colleagues quotes Ohm's law.
>>
>> ....or Kirchhoff's law...
>>
>> The sum of the currents entering a circuit equal the sum of the currents
>> exiting the circuit.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
>> <scaes...@caesare.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  No, Ben is correct here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The resistive load (simplifying, as most modern load have inductive or
>>> capacitive components in addition to purely resistive loads), is heat will
>>> determine how much he current draw will be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohms law tells us I = V/R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I-current
>>>
>>> V=voltage
>>>
>>> R=resistance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Therefore if your supply voltage(V) is 14 volts, and the load
>>> resistance(R) is 7 ohms, then the current draw (I) will be 2 amps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thus your power supply must be capable of supplying at LEAST 2 amps[1],
>>> it may be able to  supply more, but the system would simply never draw it. A
>>> 500A power supply would no more require the load to “dissipate more heat”
>>>  it than a 2A power supply would.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -sc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] And incidentally, power (W) = V*A. Therefore our theoretical power
>>> supply in this case would be supply  28W of power[2]. I not this because
>>> power supplies are often capable of varying voltage and/or are rated in
>>> watts.
>>>
>>> [2] Ignoring power efficiency factors for the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 1:07 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would depend on whether you can trust the resistor to dissapate the
>>> extra heat generated by additional current.  It's not something I would do
>>> over the long term...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Jim Holmgren <jholmg...@xlhealth.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt,
>>> I believe you are correct.  Also not an EE, but in about 10 years of
>>> working for RadioShack, that was the mantra.
>>>
>>> The device will only draw the amperage it needs, but it must have the
>>> correct voltage.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Holmgren
>>> Senior Manager, Infrastructure Services
>>> XLHealth Corporation
>>> The Warehouse at Camden Yards
>>> 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100
>>> Baltimore, MD 21201
>>> 410.625.2200 (main)
>>> 443.524.8573 (direct)
>>> 443-506.2400 (cell)
>>> www.xlhealth.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 12:49 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>>
>>> I am not an electrical engineer, so please do not take this as power
>>> supply advice:
>>>
>>> I have been told that as long as the voltage is correct, you can go over
>>> on the amperage with your PS. So, if you have something that requires
>>> 9V, 1 amp PS, and you have a 9 volt, 2 amp... you're good to go. The
>>> device will only pull as much amperage as it requires.
>>>
>>> Voltage is specific, as I'm told. Don't mess with it. AC and DC don't
>>> mix, etc, etc...
>>>
>>> Again, don't use this as any kind of real advice. Somebody with real
>>> electrical engineering experience can verify or tell me I've been told
>>> wrong. Sm:)e.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Matt Ross
>>> Ephrata School District
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Maglinger, Paul
>>> [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
>>>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
>>> Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2011
>>> 09:32:57 -0800
>>> Subject: RE: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>>
>>>
>>> > I go with 3rd party when there is a significant cost savings.  Case in
>>> > point, we use a particular print server.  The power supplies are
>>> > notorious for going bad.  We cannot purchase the OEM power supplies
>>> > alone and the entire package runs about $120.  I found replacement
>>> power
>>> > supplies for $7.50 online.  Just make sure that the voltage, current,
>>> > polarity, and the connector size all match up!
>>> >
>>> > I have been known to go slightly higher in the current capacity so
>>> they
>>> > don't run as hot.  Note that I said "slightly".
>>> >
>>> > -Paul
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
>>> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:27 AM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>> >
>>> > Thanks guys... I'll keep monitoring, although it sounds like the
>>> > consensus
>>> > of opinion so far is that 3rd party is OK. :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
>>> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 12:10 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>> >
>>> > *grabbs the "Dell" AC adapter under his desk and checks who actually
>>> > manufactured it.*
>>> >
>>> > It appears that Dell doesn't make their own, this one is made by
>>> Delta.
>>> > (A
>>> > well known PS manufacturer.)
>>> >
>>> > I'm sure Dell has some very specific requirements for their power
>>> > supplies.
>>> >
>>> > But, I will say that any reputable aftermarket PSs are likely trying
>>> to
>>> > be
>>> > as close to the specs as possible for the intended use. YMMV.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --Matt Ross
>>> > Ephrata School District
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Ames Matthew B
>>> > [mailto:mba...@qinetiq.com]
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
>>> > Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2011
>>> > 08:59:07 -0800
>>> > Subject: RE: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Personally I would get a proper one direct from the manufacturer.
>>> You
>>> > > hardly want a cheapo PSU bein left on and causing a fire.
>>> > >
>>> > > Pretty sure that Dell a good few years ago did a recall for a dodgy
>>> > > batch of laptop PSU (at least in the UK), I doubt you would get that
>>> > > sort of service from an Amazon seller.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
>>> > > Sent: 25 February 2011 16:47
>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > > Subject: QUICK question... A/C adapters
>>> > >
>>> > > Are A/C adapters something you guys would ONLY buy from the OEM or
>>> is
>>> > an
>>> > > aftermarket OK on something like that? I got the OEM to come down
>>> > about
>>> > > $10, but they're still about $10 higher than Amazon... if you guys
>>> > think
>>> > > that's something that should come from the OEM, I'll go with them.
>>> > I'll
>>> > > look for your answers until Monday and make a decision based on the
>>> > > consensus of opinion then. :-) (See... I can be patient. :-))
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>> --
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