A lemon drop? On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote:
> HA! There's nothing better than having someone lob a bright yellow ball at > you in order for you to crush that meaningless sphere into oblivion... > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Jonathan Link > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> You lush! >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I play on 5 different teams now, I could easily add some more!! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why are you trying to ruin my retirement? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link < >>>>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high >>>>>> end] SAN? >>>>>> >>>>>> Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your >>>>>> just looking to store files on it. Are you going to virtualize all your >>>>>> servers, rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, >>>>>> or >>>>>> do you need to provide data access to a large number of disparate >>>>>> servers? >>>>>> Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and >>>>>> Qnap >>>>>> (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay >>>>>> away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil). >>>>>> >>>>>> This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't >>>>>> it? Awaiting funding? The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty >>>>>> affordable, and get you into iSCSI access realm. Also, whatever >>>>>> happened to >>>>>> your project about setting up your own storage server? With Windows >>>>>> Server >>>>>> 2008 R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, >>>>>> that becomes an option now, too. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich < >>>>>> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to >>>>>>> consider, too. >>>>>>> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for >>>>>>> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our >>>>>>> file >>>>>>> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of >>>>>>> files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be >>>>>>> pushing >>>>>>> a lot of IOPS. It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or >>>>>>> intensive ERP app etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It isn't black and white IMO. Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> disks are in one big RAID set. Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, >>>>>>> buy >>>>>>> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >>>>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42 >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I >>>>>>> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own >>>>>>> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the SAN. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is >>>>>>> write >>>>>>> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >>>>>>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13 >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a >>>>>>> chance to order a SAN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our new servers are ordered that way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 >>>>>>> + >>>>>>> spare, IMO. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -sc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> I have two hotspares in my servers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Hornbuckle >>>>>>> MIS Department >>>>>>> Taylor County School District >>>>>>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No hot spare. >>>>>>> John W. Cook >>>>>>> Systems Administrator >>>>>>> Partnership for Strong Families >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com> >>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011 >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you don't have a hot spare then NO! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the >>>>>>> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any >>>>>>> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd recommend against it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -sc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM >>>>>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>>>>>> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely >>>>>>> failed and >>>>>>> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I >>>>>>> replaced >>>>>>> > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really >>>>>>> don't want to >>>>>>> > drive back out here just to swap a drive out. >>>>>>> > John W. 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