It's not just softball. It's the accompanying drinking of beer. >>> Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> 4/8/2011 10:43 AM >>> There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote: > Why are you trying to ruin my retirement? > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high >> end] SAN? >> >> Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your just >> looking to store files on it. Are you going to virtualize all your servers, >> rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, or do you >> need to provide data access to a large number of disparate servers? >> Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and Qnap >> (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay >> away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil). >> >> This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't it? >> Awaiting funding? The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty affordable, >> and get you into iSCSI access realm. Also, whatever happened to your >> project about setting up your own storage server? With Windows Server 2008 >> R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, that >> becomes an option now, too. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich < >> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: >> >>> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider, too. >>> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for >>> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our file >>> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of >>> files. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing >>> a lot of IOPS. It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or >>> intensive ERP app etc. >>> >>> It isn't black and white IMO. Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all your >>> disks are in one big RAID set. Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and you >>> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, buy >>> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so >>> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42 >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I >>> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own >>> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to >>> the SAN. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance. >>> >>> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write >>> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >>> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13 >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept -- >>> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a >>> chance to order a SAN. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> Our new servers are ordered that way. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 + >>> spare, IMO. >>> >>> -sc >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here that >>> I have two hotspares in my servers. >>> >>> >>> >>> John Hornbuckle >>> MIS Department >>> Taylor County School District >>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> No hot spare. >>> John W. Cook >>> Systems Administrator >>> Partnership for Strong Families >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >>> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011 >>> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> >>> If you don't have a hot spare then NO! >>> >>> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the >>> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any >>> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced... >>> >>> I'd recommend against it. >>> >>> -sc >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >>> > >>> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely >>> failed and >>> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. 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