By the color of pill you take? >>> Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> 4/8/2011 1:00 PM >>> How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Joseph Heaton <jhea...@dfg.ca.gov> wrote: > Sometimes I feel a part of this community, and others, I feel like such an > outsider... > > >>> John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> 4/8/2011 12:48 PM >>> > (Jedi hand wave) You don't need to see our credentials, we're free to > go... > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com> > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > Sent: Fri Apr 08 15:40:48 2011 > Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > crap. should i really know what AM you are talking about? > > bill > > Steven M. Caesare wrote: > > > > **Ahem.** > > > > > > > > -sc > > > > > > > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Friday, April 08, 2011 1:52 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > > > > > Yes, you're the Um, no, it's currently down for everyone. > > > > > > > > > > **ASB **(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>) > > **Technology Services that Maximize Business Results...*** > > * > > ** ** > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org > > <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote: > > > > Speaking of softballs, am I the only one not getting AM emails???? > > > > > > > > *John W. Cook* > > > > *System Administrator* > > > > *Partnership For Strong Families* > > > > *5950 NW 1st Place* > > > > *Gainesville, Fl 32607* > > > > *Office (352) 244-1610 <tel:%28352%29%20244-1610>* > > > > *Cell (352) 215-6944 <tel:%28352%29%20215-6944>* > > > > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* > > > > > > > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com > > <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>] > > *Sent:* Friday, April 08, 2011 1:44 PM > > > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > > > > > There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball. > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com > > <mailto:don....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Why are you trying to ruin my retirement? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high > > end] SAN? > > > > > > > > Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your > > just looking to store files on it. Are you going to virtualize all > > your servers, rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high > > availability, or do you need to provide data access to a large number > > of disparate servers? Consider looking at some of the lower end > > offerings from Synology and Qnap (heard good things), and avoid Drobo > > (heard not so good things) and stay away from Buffalo (don't touch > > that, it's pure evil). > > > > > > > > This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't > > it? Awaiting funding? The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty > > affordable, and get you into iSCSI access realm. Also, whatever > > happened to your project about setting up your own storage server? > > With Windows Server 2008 R2 having access to the iSCSI target software > > MS recently released, that becomes an option now, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich > > <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> > > wrote: > > > > Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider, too. > > :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for > > reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our file > > server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of > > files. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk > > <mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>] > > > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing > > a lot of IOPS. It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or > > intensive ERP app etc. > > > > It isn't black and white IMO. Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all your > > disks are in one big RAID set. Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and you > > can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, buy > > a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so > > you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com > > <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>] > > Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42 > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I > > bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own > > dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to > > the SAN. :-) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk > > <mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>] > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance. > > > > RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write > > intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com > > <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>] > > Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13 > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept -- > > RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a > > chance to order a SAN. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us > > <mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>] > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > Our new servers are ordered that way. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com > > <mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>] > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 + > > spare, IMO. > > > > -sc > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us > > <mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>] > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here that > > I have two hotspares in my servers. > > > > > > > > John Hornbuckle > > MIS Department > > Taylor County School District > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>] > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > No hot spare. > > John W. Cook > > Systems Administrator > > Partnership for Strong Families > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com > > <mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> > > Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011 > > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > If you don't have a hot spare then NO! > > > > If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the > > previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any > > rebuilds with the drive you already replaced... > > > > I'd recommend against it. > > > > -sc > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org > >] > > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 > > > > > > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely > > failed and > > > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I > > replaced > > > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has > > an > > > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the > > other > > > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really > > don't want to > > > drive back out here just to swap a drive out. > > > John W. 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