You choose the red pill, or the blue pill...sometimes I opt for the green
one.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote:

> How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real
> world?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Joseph Heaton <jhea...@dfg.ca.gov> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes I feel a part of this community, and others, I feel like such an
>> outsider...
>>
>> >>> John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org> 4/8/2011 12:48 PM >>>
>>  (Jedi hand wave) You don't need to see our credentials, we're free to
>> go...
>> John W. Cook
>> Systems Administrator
>> Partnership for Strong Families
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>> Sent: Fri Apr 08 15:40:48 2011
>> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>>
>> crap.  should i really know what AM you are talking about?
>>
>> bill
>>
>> Steven M. Caesare wrote:
>> >
>> > **Ahem.**
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>> > *Sent:* Friday, April 08, 2011 1:52 PM
>> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> > *Subject:* Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes, you're the  Um, no, it's currently down for everyone.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > **ASB **(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
>> > **Technology Services that Maximize Business Results...***
>> > *
>> > ** **
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:45 PM, John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org
>> > <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Speaking of softballs, am I the only one not getting AM emails????
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  *John W. Cook*
>> >
>> > *System Administrator*
>> >
>> > *Partnership For Strong Families*
>> >
>> > *5950 NW 1st Place*
>> >
>> > *Gainesville, Fl 32607*
>> >
>> > *Office (352) 244-1610 <tel:%28352%29%20244-1610>*
>> >
>> > *Cell     (352) 215-6944 <tel:%28352%29%20215-6944>*
>> >
>> > *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
>> > *Sent:* Friday, April 08, 2011 1:44 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> > *Subject:* Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > There's only so much of your day that can be taken up by softball.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:don....@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Why are you trying to ruin my retirement?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link
>> > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high
>> > end] SAN?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your
>> > just looking to store files on it.  Are you going to virtualize all
>> > your servers, rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high
>> > availability, or do you need to provide data access to a large number
>> > of disparate servers?  Consider looking at some of the lower end
>> > offerings from Synology and Qnap (heard good things), and avoid Drobo
>> > (heard not so good things) and stay away from Buffalo (don't touch
>> > that, it's pure evil).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't
>> > it?  Awaiting funding?  The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty
>> > affordable, and get you into iSCSI access realm.  Also, whatever
>> > happened to your project about setting up your own storage server?
>> > With Windows Server 2008 R2 having access to the iSCSI target software
>> > MS recently released, that becomes an option now, too.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich
>> > <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider,
>> too.
>> > :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for
>> > reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our file
>> > server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of
>> > files.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk
>> > <mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>]
>> >
>> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing
>> > a lot of IOPS.  It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or
>> > intensive ERP app etc.
>> >
>> > It isn't black and white IMO.  Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all your
>> > disks are in one big RAID set.  Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and you
>> > can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, buy
>> > a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so
>> > you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
>> > <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>]
>> > Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I
>> > bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own
>> > dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to
>> > the SAN. :-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk
>> > <mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>]
>> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance.
>> >
>> > RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write
>> > intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
>> > <mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>]
>> > Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept --
>> > RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a
>> > chance to order a SAN.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
>> > <mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
>> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > Our new servers are ordered that way.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com
>> > <mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>]
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 +
>> > spare, IMO.
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
>> > <mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here that
>> > I have two hotspares in my servers.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John Hornbuckle
>> > MIS Department
>> > Taylor County School District
>> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>]
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > No hot spare.
>> > John W. Cook
>> > Systems Administrator
>> > Partnership for Strong Families
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com
>> > <mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>>
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>> > <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
>> > Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011
>> > Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> >
>> > If you don't have a hot spare then NO!
>> >
>> > If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the
>> > previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any
>> > rebuilds with the drive you already replaced...
>> >
>> > I'd recommend against it.
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org <mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org
>> >]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5
>> > >
>> > > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely
>> > failed and
>> > > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I
>> > replaced
>> > > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has
>> > an
>> > > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the
>> > other
>> > > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really
>> > don't want to
>> > > drive back out here just to swap a drive out.
>> > > John W. Cook
>> > > Systems Administrator
>> > > Partnership for Strong Families
>> >
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