If I remember all correctly, this is probably corporate Britland as well 
now.
--
richard

"Ziots, Edward" <ezi...@lifespan.org> wrote on 07/08/2011 10:33:41 AM:

> Heck Don, 
> 
> That is corporate America these days, and its been going on soo long
> that people seem to get away with it over and over, its kinda gross. 
> 
> Sincerely
> EZ
> 
> Edward E. Ziots
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> Security Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
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> 
> From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Amusing legal stuff
> 
> I?m sorry; I have a big problem with that. It?s Friday, I?m gonna 
> refrain from ranting over that, so I don?t ruin my weekend?..
> 
> J
> 
> I?ll just say I have no tolerance for people that ?misbehave? and 
> then pull a redirect, blaming it on someone/something else.
> 
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed ? A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
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> 
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:54 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Amusing legal stuff
> 
> Constructive dismissal....i.e. he claims he was put in a position 
> where he had no choice but to resign.
> On 8 July 2011 15:41, Guyer, Don <don.gu...@fiserv.com> wrote:
> How can one ?resign? and then turn around and claim ?dismissal??
> 
> ?Yeah, I quit?.wait I was fired unfairly???
> 
> Maybe I?m missing something here.
> 
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed ? A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
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> 
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:48 AM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Amusing legal stuff
> 
> Maybe I should have said the legal system....but clearly whoever 
> sits on these tribunals must have been taken in by this guy's 
> nonsensical verbiage. Either that or our solicitors are useless.
> 
> 
> Basically this guy was placed under suspension and investigated for 
> spending all day on his blog instead of working. So he resigned. And
> claimed constructive unfair dismissal. And won. I'm waiting to see 
> the final recommendations of the tribunal and find out whether the 
> technical issues he put in front of the tribunal had any bearing on 
> the verdict. I'm hoping they didn't.
> On 8 July 2011 12:42, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Which part of the justice system failed here?

> 
> 
> ASB
> 
> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
> 
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:02 AM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> 
wrote:
> Well I have lost all faith in the justice system. This guy won his 
> case for unfair dismissal. He is now awaiting compensation.
> 
> On 1 July 2011 14:58, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> We have a user who is facing disciplinary action for over-use of the
> Internet. He is defending himself, and some of the points he has 
> risen truly make me aware of the fact "a little knowledge is a 
> dangerous thing"...
> 
> He claims that, since he uses Firefox, and Microsoft ISA Server is, 
> in his words, "optimized for use with Internet Explorer and Citrix",
> that the records of his web browsing cannot be accurate, as he was 
> not using Internet Explorer.
> 
> He also claims that when using VPN from home, as he was on a "dual-
> processor Mac", that the timings recorded for his Internet usage are
> inaccurate, as the Mac "works faster and more efficiently than 
> Windows machines, and henceforth creates a skew in time that cannot 
> be accurately recorded by Windows or Microsoft software"
> 
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> contributory factor towards his over-use of the Internet. "The 
> processing time used by the technologies deployed at work, such as 
> Group Policy, AppSense, and ISA Server, create an inaccurate 
> representation of my browsing time, as the pages load and unload 
> slower than they would on, for instance, my dual-processor Mac, 
> therefore the evidence exhibited is inaccurate and inadmissible"
> 
> I hope he does not manage to convince the people on this tribunal 
> that he actually knows what he is talking about.
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> necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please 
> contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you 
> just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, 
> but I am starting to digress...... 
> The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of 
> the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either
> way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to 
> dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free
> to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions 
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> sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission.
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> of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the
> seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it 
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