If I remember all correctly, this is probably corporate Britland as well now. -- richard
"Ziots, Edward" <ezi...@lifespan.org> wrote on 07/08/2011 10:33:41 AM: > Heck Don, > > That is corporate America these days, and its been going on soo long > that people seem to get away with it over and over, its kinda gross. > > Sincerely > EZ > > Edward E. Ziots > CISSP, Network +, Security + > Security Engineer > Lifespan Organization > Email:ezi...@lifespan.org > Cell:401-639-3505 > [image removed] > > From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT: Amusing legal stuff > > I?m sorry; I have a big problem with that. It?s Friday, I?m gonna > refrain from ranting over that, so I don?t ruin my weekend?.. > > J > > I?ll just say I have no tolerance for people that ?misbehave? and > then pull a redirect, blaming it on someone/something else. > > Don Guyer > Windows Systems Engineer > RIM Operations Engineering Distributed ? A Team, Tier 2 > Enterprise Technology Group > Fiserv > don.gu...@fiserv.com > Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 > Fax: 610-233-0404 > www.fiserv.com > > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:54 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: Amusing legal stuff > > Constructive dismissal....i.e. he claims he was put in a position > where he had no choice but to resign. > On 8 July 2011 15:41, Guyer, Don <don.gu...@fiserv.com> wrote: > How can one ?resign? and then turn around and claim ?dismissal?? > > ?Yeah, I quit?.wait I was fired unfairly??? > > Maybe I?m missing something here. > > Don Guyer > Windows Systems Engineer > RIM Operations Engineering Distributed ? A Team, Tier 2 > Enterprise Technology Group > Fiserv > don.gu...@fiserv.com > Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 > Fax: 610-233-0404 > www.fiserv.com > > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:48 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT: Amusing legal stuff > > Maybe I should have said the legal system....but clearly whoever > sits on these tribunals must have been taken in by this guy's > nonsensical verbiage. Either that or our solicitors are useless. > > > Basically this guy was placed under suspension and investigated for > spending all day on his blog instead of working. So he resigned. And > claimed constructive unfair dismissal. And won. I'm waiting to see > the final recommendations of the tribunal and find out whether the > technical issues he put in front of the tribunal had any bearing on > the verdict. I'm hoping they didn't. > On 8 July 2011 12:42, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote: > Which part of the justice system failed here? > > > ASB > > http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker > > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market? > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:02 AM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Well I have lost all faith in the justice system. This guy won his > case for unfair dismissal. He is now awaiting compensation. > > On 1 July 2011 14:58, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote: > We have a user who is facing disciplinary action for over-use of the > Internet. He is defending himself, and some of the points he has > risen truly make me aware of the fact "a little knowledge is a > dangerous thing"... > > He claims that, since he uses Firefox, and Microsoft ISA Server is, > in his words, "optimized for use with Internet Explorer and Citrix", > that the records of his web browsing cannot be accurate, as he was > not using Internet Explorer. > > He also claims that when using VPN from home, as he was on a "dual- > processor Mac", that the timings recorded for his Internet usage are > inaccurate, as the Mac "works faster and more efficiently than > Windows machines, and henceforth creates a skew in time that cannot > be accurately recorded by Windows or Microsoft software" > > Finally, he has named the restrictions on his work machine as a > contributory factor towards his over-use of the Internet. "The > processing time used by the technologies deployed at work, such as > Group Policy, AppSense, and ISA Server, create an inaccurate > representation of my browsing time, as the pages load and unload > slower than they would on, for instance, my dual-processor Mac, > therefore the evidence exhibited is inaccurate and inadmissible" > > I hope he does not manage to convince the people on this tribunal > that he actually knows what he is talking about. > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. > com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > -- > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I > am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that > could provoke such a question." > > ***** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER ***** > > This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is > addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously > addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't > mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make > no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended > recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, > you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not > necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please > contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you > just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, > but I am starting to digress...... > The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of > the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either > way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to > dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free > to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions > should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be > sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. > In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, > then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your > mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we > will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the > can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. > We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we > are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. > In the event that you do get this message then please note that we > take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any > liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur > as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to > time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, > hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and > NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! > The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those > of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the > seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it > to me for afternoon tea. > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. > com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. > com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > -- > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I > am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that > could provoke such a question." > > ***** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER ***** > > This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is > addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously > addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't > mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make > no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended > recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, > you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not > necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please > contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you > just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, > but I am starting to digress...... > The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of > the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either > way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to > dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free > to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions > should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be > sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. > In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, > then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your > mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we > will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the > can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. > We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we > are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. > In the event that you do get this message then please note that we > take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any > liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur > as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to > time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, > hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and > NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! > The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those > of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the > seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it > to me for afternoon tea. > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. > com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. > com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. > com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin