Not just Corporate but a lot of this happens in government as well.

Jon

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org> wrote:

>  Heck Don, ****
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> That is corporate America these days, and its been going on soo long that
> people seem to get away with it over and over, its kinda gross. ****
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> Sincerely****
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> EZ****
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> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 10:59 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Amusing legal stuff****
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> I’m sorry; I have a big problem with that. It’s Friday, I’m gonna refrain
> from ranting over that, so I don’t ruin my weekend…..****
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> J****
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> I’ll just say I have no tolerance for people that “misbehave” and then pull
> a redirect, blaming it on someone/something else.****
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> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 10:54 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Amusing legal stuff****
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> Constructive dismissal....i.e. he claims he was put in a position where he
> had no choice but to resign.****
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> On 8 July 2011 15:41, Guyer, Don <don.gu...@fiserv.com> wrote:****
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> How can one “resign” and then turn around and claim “dismissal”?****
>
>  ****
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> “Yeah, I quit….wait I was fired unfairly”…?****
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>  ****
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> Maybe I’m missing something here.****
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> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 7:48 AM****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Amusing legal stuff****
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>  ****
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> Maybe I should have said the legal system....but clearly whoever sits on
> these tribunals must have been taken in by this guy's nonsensical verbiage.
> Either that or our solicitors are useless.****
>
>
>
> Basically this guy was placed under suspension and investigated for
> spending all day on his blog instead of working. So he resigned. And claimed
> constructive unfair dismissal. And won. I'm waiting to see the final
> recommendations of the tribunal and find out whether the technical issues he
> put in front of the tribunal had any bearing on the verdict. I'm hoping they
> didn't.****
>
> On 8 July 2011 12:42, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote:****
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> Which part of the justice system failed here?
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> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:02 AM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:****
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> Well I have lost all faith in the justice system. This guy won his case for
> unfair dismissal. He is now awaiting compensation.****
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> On 1 July 2011 14:58, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote:****
>
> We have a user who is facing disciplinary action for over-use of the
> Internet. He is defending himself, and some of the points he has risen truly
> make me aware of the fact "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"...
>
> He claims that, since he uses Firefox, and Microsoft ISA Server is, in his
> words, "*optimized for use with Internet Explorer and Citrix*", that the
> records of his web browsing cannot be accurate, as he was not using Internet
> Explorer.
>
> He also claims that when using VPN from home, as he was on a "*dual-processor
> Mac*", that the timings recorded for his Internet usage are inaccurate, as
> the Mac "*works faster and more efficiently than Windows machines, and
> henceforth creates a skew in time that cannot be accurately recorded by
> Windows or Microsoft software*"
>
> Finally, he has named the restrictions on his work machine as a
> contributory factor towards his over-use of the Internet. "*The processing
> time used by the technologies deployed at work, such as Group Policy,
> AppSense, and ISA Server, create an inaccurate representation of my browsing
> time, as the pages load and unload slower than they would on, for instance,
> my dual-processor Mac, therefore the evidence exhibited is inaccurate and
> inadmissible*"
>
> I hope he does not manage to convince the people on this tribunal that he
> actually knows what he is talking about.
> ****
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> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
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> This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed.
> If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and
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> However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you
> probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a
> mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and
> destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken
> this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer,
> because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide
> afterwards, but I am starting to digress...... *****
>
> *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the
> information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a
> pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But
> should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it,
> and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However,
> if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding
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