Vito, what is it that you want your system capable of?  What window manager, basic applications, etc are you looking for? 

My install of Debian is pretty straight forward and takes a little over an hour to get up and running.  Here is a very basic outline of my process:

I start out with a ~50MB HFS partition with the remaining drive as free space.

I use the miboot.iso to boot into the Sarge installer.  Once in, I go to a console, eject the CD, and put in my Debian CD.  I then continue through the installation.  I set up a good size root partition, allow ~1GB+ for swap, and the remainder (largest partition) as /home.

I set up apt-get to use ftp, but I do not install any of the pre-grouped packages.  They throw in too much stuff that I do not need nor want.  Once installation is complete, I reboot and continue through the setup routines that base-config walks you through.  Once done with this, I immediatly do an 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'.

I will at this point also make sure that my ~50MB HFS partition is set up in /etc/fstab and mounted to where I want it.  I would then copy the miboot.iso CD contents to this partition to allow booting off of this partition.

Now, for me, before I start installing packages, I update my sources.list file to unstable (simply change stable to unstable with the same repositories you chose in the apt-get setup).  I then do another 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'.  This ensures I am running Sid.  I have never had problems running Debian unstable, but this one is your choice.

This is when I start installing only the packages I want.  With one swoop, I get all I need.

apt-get install sudo ssh x-window-system-core  blackbox mozilla-firefox  mozilla-thunderbird

This will give me the "basic" setup I would want.  Later, I would install some specific blackbox packages, a chat client, etc; but these are my basics.  With this, I will have xorg installed with a WM and web and email client.  I need my sudo, and do a lot of ssh'ing.

I then will start to make sure that my xorg.conf file is set up the way I need it to be as well as my network interfaces, and suduers file.

Nice and quick.  Of course, over the course of using the system, I would tweak here and there.  Removing running items that are not neccessary, playing with xset, etc; but all and all, I would be pretty much done in maybe a little over an hour.  The main time would be spent downloading and installing.

icedtrip



On 3/3/06, Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
and I am back to unmet dependencies - locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1
E: Broken packages.

I think that there are too many variables involved here that are well beyond my understanding.
So my advise is that Ubuntu may be doable - with the proviso that one is knowlegable of the Deb or linux beyond the basics or pre-basics.

I am going back to installing DebPPC with all of its many hoops to jump thru - at least I cna get it up and working in the end.


Vito

----- Original Message ----
From: icedtrip < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2006 12:40:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies

Looks like my last message is being approved by the moderator due to size limit, so I am resending with the thread trimmed down.

I may be wrong on this one, but it looks like you don't have locales installed.  I have noticed this if you have the debian base-config app installed (which is the setup app that walks you through initial setup when Debian is installed).  I noticed that if you install base-config though apt-get as well, it will remove locales.

Try 'apt-get install locales'

icedtrip


On 3/3/06, Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Sirs:

In the continuing saga of trying to install ubuntu on the pb1400c, I cannot get xerver to install properly,
I get the following errors perl: warning: Setting local failed
perl: warning: Please check that your local settings:
LANGUAGE = "en_US:en_GB:en",
LC_ALL = (unset)
LANG = "en_US"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning : Dalling back to the standard local ("C")
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
"" LC_MESSAGES"  " "
"" LC_ALL ""
debconf: unable to initialize front end: Gnome
debconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome2-perl installed?)
debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
Package 'xserver-xfree86' is not installed and no info is available
Use dpkg --info (=dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb (=dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfreee86 is not installed

Help please - P.S. I don't think that I will try reinstalling ubuntu again after this on the pb1400,
its not worth this nonsense.

Vito

----- Original Message ----
From: Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:55:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies



----- Original Message ----
From: Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:18:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies

This is where I got the file from if anyones interested http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/

Vito

And these are the ubuntu repositories I use if anyones interested:

Edited /etc/apt/sources.list so that it now looks like this:

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
     ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
     deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
     deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe

     Then I issued the usual commands

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

Still getting an error on /var/cache/apt/archives/exim4-base_4.52-1_powerpc.deb
subbprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Cheers,
Vito


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