Ice Trip:
I've had the Deb installed 3 times but the system was broken by pmu rebooting problems, which I think are related to my toshiba microdrive in the nubus slot and its power management -hence I will not be using it. I just got a new larger drive so I will be installing Deb once again over the weekend on the that. However, that is a 14 disk 2 update cd package which must be scanned into the cache during setup.
I thought that I could install ubuntu which is much smaller with preselected packages much faster and that it would be perhaps more stable. Boy was I ever wrong.
I have been using Gnome desktop in Deb and am happy with the speed. I use open office, wifi, and ethernet ( 1 at home and 1at the office.) I hope to set up the network printer to work and I will be happy using it for that and internet, but I have gotten a little frustrated with the system constantly breaking. and having to reinstall, as most repair attempts fail.
So in reality I was looking at the ubuntu as a quickfix, but it doesn't work out that way, so I'm back to Deb and if it stays unbroken I will be perfectly happy.
Thanks for everyone's help and generous help - I really do love being able to run a 1st rate system like
Deb on this old pb1400. I just found a really good deal on an active matrix screen to stick in the pb so that the visual experience will improve.
Thx Again for your efforts and others - keep updating on the 2.6 kernel situation and also if you know anyone with the wherewithall to attack the DMA sound problem - if we got that up and working -that would be really fantastic.
Vito
----- Original Message ----
From: icedtrip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2006 2:46:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies
Vito, what is it that you want your system capable of? What window manager, basic applications, etc are you looking for?
My install of Debian is pretty straight forward and takes a little over an hour to get up and running. Here is a very basic outline of my process:
I start out with a ~50MB HFS partition with the remaining drive as free space.
I use the miboot.iso to boot into the Sarge installer. Once in, I go to a console, eject the CD, and put in my Debian CD. I then continue through the installation. I set up a good size root partition, allow ~1GB+ for swap, and the remainder (largest partition) as /home.
I set up apt-get to use ftp, but I do not install any of the pre-grouped packages. They throw in too much stuff that I do not need nor want. Once installation is complete, I reboot and continue through the setup routines that base-config walks you through. Once done with this, I immediatly do an 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'.
I will at this point also make sure that my ~50MB HFS partition is set up in /etc/fstab and mounted to where I want it. I would then copy the miboot.iso CD contents to this partition to allow booting off of this partition.
Now, for me, before I start installing packages, I update my sources.list file to unstable (simply change stable to unstable with the same repositories you chose in the apt-get setup). I then do another 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'. This ensures I am running Sid. I have never had problems running Debian unstable, but this one is your choice.
This is when I start installing only the packages I want. With one swoop, I get all I need.
apt-get install sudo ssh x-window-system-core blackbox mozilla-firefox mozilla-thunderbird
This will give me the "basic" setup I would want. Later, I would install some specific blackbox packages, a chat client, etc; but these are my basics. With this, I will have xorg installed with a WM and web and email client. I need my sudo, and do a lot of ssh'ing.
I then will start to make sure that my xorg.conf file is set up the way I need it to be as well as my network interfaces, and suduers file.
Nice and quick. Of course, over the course of using the system, I would tweak here and there. Removing running items that are not neccessary, playing with xset, etc; but all and all, I would be pretty much done in maybe a little over an hour. The main time would be spent downloading and installing.
icedtrip
I've had the Deb installed 3 times but the system was broken by pmu rebooting problems, which I think are related to my toshiba microdrive in the nubus slot and its power management -hence I will not be using it. I just got a new larger drive so I will be installing Deb once again over the weekend on the that. However, that is a 14 disk 2 update cd package which must be scanned into the cache during setup.
I thought that I could install ubuntu which is much smaller with preselected packages much faster and that it would be perhaps more stable. Boy was I ever wrong.
I have been using Gnome desktop in Deb and am happy with the speed. I use open office, wifi, and ethernet ( 1 at home and 1at the office.) I hope to set up the network printer to work and I will be happy using it for that and internet, but I have gotten a little frustrated with the system constantly breaking. and having to reinstall, as most repair attempts fail.
So in reality I was looking at the ubuntu as a quickfix, but it doesn't work out that way, so I'm back to Deb and if it stays unbroken I will be perfectly happy.
Thanks for everyone's help and generous help - I really do love being able to run a 1st rate system like
Deb on this old pb1400. I just found a really good deal on an active matrix screen to stick in the pb so that the visual experience will improve.
Thx Again for your efforts and others - keep updating on the 2.6 kernel situation and also if you know anyone with the wherewithall to attack the DMA sound problem - if we got that up and working -that would be really fantastic.
Vito
----- Original Message ----
From: icedtrip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2006 2:46:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies
Vito, what is it that you want your system capable of? What window manager, basic applications, etc are you looking for?
My install of Debian is pretty straight forward and takes a little over an hour to get up and running. Here is a very basic outline of my process:
I start out with a ~50MB HFS partition with the remaining drive as free space.
I use the miboot.iso to boot into the Sarge installer. Once in, I go to a console, eject the CD, and put in my Debian CD. I then continue through the installation. I set up a good size root partition, allow ~1GB+ for swap, and the remainder (largest partition) as /home.
I set up apt-get to use ftp, but I do not install any of the pre-grouped packages. They throw in too much stuff that I do not need nor want. Once installation is complete, I reboot and continue through the setup routines that base-config walks you through. Once done with this, I immediatly do an 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'.
I will at this point also make sure that my ~50MB HFS partition is set up in /etc/fstab and mounted to where I want it. I would then copy the miboot.iso CD contents to this partition to allow booting off of this partition.
Now, for me, before I start installing packages, I update my sources.list file to unstable (simply change stable to unstable with the same repositories you chose in the apt-get setup). I then do another 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get upgrade'. This ensures I am running Sid. I have never had problems running Debian unstable, but this one is your choice.
This is when I start installing only the packages I want. With one swoop, I get all I need.
apt-get install sudo ssh x-window-system-core blackbox mozilla-firefox mozilla-thunderbird
This will give me the "basic" setup I would want. Later, I would install some specific blackbox packages, a chat client, etc; but these are my basics. With this, I will have xorg installed with a WM and web and email client. I need my sudo, and do a lot of ssh'ing.
I then will start to make sure that my xorg.conf file is set up the way I need it to be as well as my network interfaces, and suduers file.
Nice and quick. Of course, over the course of using the system, I would tweak here and there. Removing running items that are not neccessary, playing with xset, etc; but all and all, I would be pretty much done in maybe a little over an hour. The main time would be spent downloading and installing.
icedtrip
On 3/3/06, Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
and I am back to unmet dependencies - locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1
E: Broken packages.
I think that there are too many variables involved here that are well beyond my understanding.
So my advise is that Ubuntu may be doable - with the proviso that one is knowlegable of the Deb or linux beyond the basics or pre-basics.
I am going back to installing DebPPC with all of its many hoops to jump thru - at least I cna get it up and working in the end.
Vito
----- Original Message ----
From: icedtrip < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Friday, March 3, 2006 12:40:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies
Looks like my last message is being approved by the moderator due to size limit, so I am resending with the thread trimmed down.I may be wrong on this one, but it looks like you don't have locales installed. I have noticed this if you have the debian base-config app installed (which is the setup app that walks you through initial setup when Debian is installed). I noticed that if you install base-config though apt-get as well, it will remove locales.
Try 'apt-get install locales'
icedtripOn 3/3/06, Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dear Sirs:
In the continuing saga of trying to install ubuntu on the pb1400c, I cannot get xerver to install properly,
I get the following errors perl: warning: Setting local failed
perl: warning: Please check that your local settings:
LANGUAGE = "en_US:en_GB:en",
LC_ALL = (unset)
LANG = "en_US"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning : Dalling back to the standard local ("C")
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
"" LC_MESSAGES" " "
"" LC_ALL ""
debconf: unable to initialize front end: Gnome
debconf: (Unable to load Gnome -- is libgnome2-perl installed?)
debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
Package 'xserver-xfree86' is not installed and no info is available
Use dpkg --info (=dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb (=dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfreee86 is not installed
Help please - P.S. I don't think that I will try reinstalling ubuntu again after this on the pb1400,
its not worth this nonsense.
Vito
----- Original Message ----
From: Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:55:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies
----- Original Message ----
From: Vito < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
To: nubus-pmac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:18:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Nubus-pmac-users] Re: dependencies
This is where I got the file from if anyones interested http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/
Vito
And these are the ubuntu repositories I use if anyones interested:
Edited /etc/apt/sources.list so that it now looks like this:
## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
Then I issued the usual commands
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Still getting an error on /var/cache/apt/archives/exim4-base_4.52-1_powerpc.deb
subbprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Cheers,
Vito
