Hi Doug,

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, at 06:29, Doug Turnbull wrote:
> To debug, I ran `pip install . --no-build-isolation` it worked (using venv's 
> numpy)

When developing NumPy, we typically build in the existing environment. This is 
done either via `pip install -e .` (which installs hooks to trigger a 
re-compile upon import), or via the spin tool 
(https://github.com/scientific-python/spin), which have meson commands 
pre-bundled:

pip install spin
spin  # lists commands available

Best regards,
Stéfan
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