On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Peter Cock <p.j.a.c...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why not just release numpy 1.8 with the old and terrible system? As
> >> you know I'm 110% in favor of getting rid of it, but 1.8 is ready to
> >> go and 1.9 is coming soon enough, and the old and terrible system does
> >> work right now, today. None of the other options have this property.
>

The above makes a lot of sense, so I decided to check that it actually does
work. Unsurprisingly, it needs fixing:
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/3760

Ralf


> >
> > On the down side, the "old and terrible system" does not
> > cover providing pre-built binaries for 64 bit Windows.
> >
> > Doing that right is important not just for SciPy but for any
> > other downstream package including C code compiled
> > against the NumPy C API (and the people doing this
> > probably will only have access to free compilers).
>
> That's not a downside -- that's the situation right now and will
> continue to be the situation for the immediate future, if we cut a
> 1.8rc1 tomorrow and also if we don't cut a 1.8rc1 tomorrow. Again, I'm
> absolutely behind getting this sorted out, but holding up the release
> on all platforms is not going to make win64 standalone binaries appear
> any faster, and in the mean time everyone seems to be getting along
> OK, either because they're using a distribution, are on another
> platform, or taking advantage of Cristoph's generosity (thank you
> Cristoph!).
>
> Worst case, if it all gets sorted out next week we could release an
> 1.8.1 to celebrate...
>
> -n
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