On second thought, I don't think we need a scheduled, structured session. It would be better to have ad-hoc discussions. Just don't fill up all the time with talks.
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 27 October 2015 at 12:31, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I nominate David Ray to moderate. (If he wants to, of course). >> >> Seconded! > > Any ideas on how to structure this kind of session? I'm sure there will be > plenty of ideas raised by Sergey, Fergal and others. It might be obvious > what to focus on. Or not. > > I find that putting ideas into code exposes a lot of unspecified details, > which may be very important in their effects. So personally I would like us > to propose some concrete mechanisms, avoiding hand waving as much as > possible (sure, we need hand waving sometimes). It would be good to get > those people with more neuroscience knowledge involved at that detailed level, > I think. > > > > >> On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sergey, I would love to hear that talk. Distilled neuroscience is gold. >> >> Perhaps, along with Fergal's talk, it could lead into a forum/discussion >> on potential computational experiments inspired by neuroscience? An >> explicit bridge-building exercise between theory and practice. We would >> need a skilled moderator. >> >> >> On 27 October 2015 at 07:43, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> +1, I'd be interested in your talk. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM Sergey Alexashenko < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey David, >>>> >>>> Sorry, I must have not been clear. I do not intend to present theories >>>> from neuroscience, just evidence. For example, we now know that inhibitory >>>> neurons can block off information input to an excitatory neuron's cell body >>>> from one specific dendrite. That seems like it could be important, but HTM >>>> has no way to account for that. There are a few other similar mechanics. >>>> >>>> Obviously, I have theories about these behaviors (and so do other >>>> people), but I do not want to present them for similar reasons to those in >>>> your email. >>>> >>>> What are your thoughts on that approach? >>>> >>>> Sergey >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:18 PM, David Ray <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sergey, >>>>> >>>>> Can you put it in context - show how the contrary opinions actually >>>>> demonstrate computational viability - and not just someone's opinions? >>>>> Show >>>>> how the challenging theories have a computational model which illustrates >>>>> a >>>>> more efficient likelihood of prediction accuracy? Because If all the >>>>> challenging theories do is propose a theory, then how is it a contribution >>>>> considering HTM theory yields actual results. >>>>> >>>>> So personally I'm not interested unless the theory can demonstrate an >>>>> increase in cognitive resolution. >>>>> >>>>> But that's just me... >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Sergey Alexashenko < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Do you think there would be any interest in a short talk on some >>>>> neuroscience challenges to HTM theory? I am specifically thinking about >>>>> dendritic computation, role of inhibitory neurons and non-Hebbian >>>>> plasticity. I know this sounds dense, but I am reasonably sure I can make >>>>> it sound accessible to people who have only On Intelligence and the white >>>>> paper as their background. >>>>> >>>>> Sergey >>>>> On Oct 26, 2015 3:22 PM, "Fergal Byrne" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, either Matt will get a recording, or the speaker will, or >>>>>> someone will come and use their own camera/mike. Or best, all of these. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Will these talks be recorded? I vote for "yes". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Fergal, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please edit this wiki document: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/HTM-Challenge-Community-Meetup-Planning >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>> Matt Taylor >>>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer >>>>>>>> Numenta >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Fergal Byrne >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Thanks Matt for organising the Hangout this morning/afternoon. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The Community Meetup on Friday, November 13th [1] is hosted by >>>>>>>> Numenta but >>>>>>>> > is our day. Please have your say in designing and shaping how the >>>>>>>> day works. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > The current proposal is a mixture of longish talks (40-50mins >>>>>>>> plus Q&A) and >>>>>>>> > lightning talks (5-15mins plus Q&A). >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > We have so far pencilled in two long-form talks: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 1. Donna Dubinsky (Numenta co-founder and CEO) on the "Business >>>>>>>> of HTM" >>>>>>>> > 2. Me on "Symphony from Synapses: Neocortex as a Universal >>>>>>>> > Dynamical Systems Modeller" >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > We have from 3pm until 9ish, so there's plenty of room for talks >>>>>>>> of both >>>>>>>> > types. I'd personally enjoy a good mixture of a few more >>>>>>>> long-form and a >>>>>>>> > good number of swift talks. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Matt is going to set up a Wiki page for this (he'll post a link >>>>>>>> here), so >>>>>>>> > please jump in with your talk proposals - specify approx length >>>>>>>> of the talk >>>>>>>> > so we can figure out how to schedule them. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > For those who cannot attend in person, we'll hopefully organise a >>>>>>>> > webcast/hangout way to deliver your contribution. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > This is all subject to objections/amendments from you guys, >>>>>>>> nothing is set >>>>>>>> > in stone. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > [1] http://www.meetup.com/numenta/events/224711563/ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>>>>> > http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - >>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>>>> > https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>>>> > Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License >>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>>>> > Read for free or buy the book at >>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>>>> > Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>>>> > Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne >>>>>> >>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>> >>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>> Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License >>>>>> http://occupystartups.me >>>>>> >>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at >>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>> >>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >> >> > > > -- > Felix Andrews / 安福立 > http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ > > > -- > Felix Andrews / 安福立 > http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ > -- Felix Andrews / 安福立 http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/
