Agree. The recent informal meetup was great. And looking likely to be a format used more. As well as more specific meets, such as the NuPIC Development Progress Reviews and Office Hours.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: > No I was just talking about the idea of a special forum session, to beat > out some precise computational experiments from the theory. But I now think > we shouldn't do that. Just leave it ad-hoc. > > It's often the incidental conversations that are most valuable, so I was > suggesting we don't fill up all the time with formal talks. I realise this > leaves out remote people but there it is. Maybe we could hire some > telepresence robots. > > > On 28 October 2015 at 20:20, Richard Crowder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I gained the impression that it was split into two schedules for the >> community side. Having longer presentations with questions and answers >> after or throughout. Then shorter time-limited 'lightning' talks with >> time limited Q&A after (potentially before the longer talks). To help >> presenters enter videos and schedule a time for them to attend and answer >> questions, time zone differences etc. >> I'm guessing your not referring to the lightning talk side with your >> second thought? >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On second thought, I don't think we need a scheduled, structured >>> session. It would be better to have ad-hoc discussions. Just don't fill up >>> all the time with talks. >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 27 October 2015 at 12:31, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I nominate David Ray to moderate. (If he wants to, of course). >>>>> >>>>> Seconded! >>>> >>>> Any ideas on how to structure this kind of session? I'm sure there will >>>> be plenty of ideas raised by Sergey, Fergal and others. It might be obvious >>>> what to focus on. Or not. >>>> >>>> I find that putting ideas into code exposes a lot of unspecified >>>> details, which may be very important in their effects. So personally I >>>> would like us to propose some concrete mechanisms, avoiding hand waving as >>>> much as possible (sure, we need hand waving sometimes). It would be good to >>>> get those people with more neuroscience knowledge involved at that >>>> detailed level, >>>> I think. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Felix Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sergey, I would love to hear that talk. Distilled neuroscience is gold. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps, along with Fergal's talk, it could lead into a >>>>> forum/discussion on potential computational experiments inspired by >>>>> neuroscience? An explicit bridge-building exercise between theory and >>>>> practice. We would need a skilled moderator. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 October 2015 at 07:43, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> +1, I'd be interested in your talk. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM Sergey Alexashenko < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey David, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, I must have not been clear. I do not intend to present >>>>>>> theories from neuroscience, just evidence. For example, we now know that >>>>>>> inhibitory neurons can block off information input to an excitatory >>>>>>> neuron's cell body from one specific dendrite. That seems like it could >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> important, but HTM has no way to account for that. There are a few other >>>>>>> similar mechanics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obviously, I have theories about these behaviors (and so do other >>>>>>> people), but I do not want to present them for similar reasons to those >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> your email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are your thoughts on that approach? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sergey >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:18 PM, David Ray < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sergey, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you put it in context - show how the contrary opinions actually >>>>>>>> demonstrate computational viability - and not just someone's opinions? >>>>>>>> Show >>>>>>>> how the challenging theories have a computational model which >>>>>>>> illustrates a >>>>>>>> more efficient likelihood of prediction accuracy? Because If all the >>>>>>>> challenging theories do is propose a theory, then how is it a >>>>>>>> contribution >>>>>>>> considering HTM theory yields actual results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So personally I'm not interested unless the theory can demonstrate >>>>>>>> an increase in cognitive resolution. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But that's just me... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Sergey Alexashenko < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you think there would be any interest in a short talk on some >>>>>>>> neuroscience challenges to HTM theory? I am specifically thinking about >>>>>>>> dendritic computation, role of inhibitory neurons and non-Hebbian >>>>>>>> plasticity. I know this sounds dense, but I am reasonably sure I can >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> it sound accessible to people who have only On Intelligence and the >>>>>>>> white >>>>>>>> paper as their background. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sergey >>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2015 3:22 PM, "Fergal Byrne" < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, either Matt will get a recording, or the speaker will, or >>>>>>>>> someone will come and use their own camera/mike. Or best, all of >>>>>>>>> these. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will these talks be recorded? I vote for "yes". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Fergal, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please edit this wiki document: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/HTM-Challenge-Community-Meetup-Planning >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Taylor >>>>>>>>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer >>>>>>>>>>> Numenta >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Fergal Byrne >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks Matt for organising the Hangout this morning/afternoon. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > The Community Meetup on Friday, November 13th [1] is hosted by >>>>>>>>>>> Numenta but >>>>>>>>>>> > is our day. Please have your say in designing and shaping how >>>>>>>>>>> the day works. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > The current proposal is a mixture of longish talks (40-50mins >>>>>>>>>>> plus Q&A) and >>>>>>>>>>> > lightning talks (5-15mins plus Q&A). >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > We have so far pencilled in two long-form talks: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Donna Dubinsky (Numenta co-founder and CEO) on the >>>>>>>>>>> "Business of HTM" >>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Me on "Symphony from Synapses: Neocortex as a Universal >>>>>>>>>>> > Dynamical Systems Modeller" >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > We have from 3pm until 9ish, so there's plenty of room for >>>>>>>>>>> talks of both >>>>>>>>>>> > types. I'd personally enjoy a good mixture of a few more >>>>>>>>>>> long-form and a >>>>>>>>>>> > good number of swift talks. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Matt is going to set up a Wiki page for this (he'll post a >>>>>>>>>>> link here), so >>>>>>>>>>> > please jump in with your talk proposals - specify approx >>>>>>>>>>> length of the talk >>>>>>>>>>> > so we can figure out how to schedule them. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > For those who cannot attend in person, we'll hopefully >>>>>>>>>>> organise a >>>>>>>>>>> > webcast/hangout way to deliver your contribution. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > This is all subject to objections/amendments from you guys, >>>>>>>>>>> nothing is set >>>>>>>>>>> > in stone. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > [1] http://www.meetup.com/numenta/events/224711563/ >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful >>>>>>>>>>> Technology >>>>>>>>>>> > http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>>>>>>> > https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>>>>>>> > Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License >>>>>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>>>>>>> > Read for free or buy the book at >>>>>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>>>>>>> > Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>>>>>>> > Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fergal Byrne, Brenter IT @fergbyrne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://inbits.com - Better Living through Thoughtful Technology >>>>>>>>> http://ie.linkedin.com/in/fergbyrne/ - >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/fergalbyrne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Founder of Clortex: HTM in Clojure - >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/nupic-community/clortex >>>>>>>>> Co-creator @OccupyStartups Time-Bombed Open License >>>>>>>>> http://occupystartups.me >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Author, Real Machine Intelligence with Clortex and NuPIC >>>>>>>>> Read for free or buy the book at >>>>>>>>> https://leanpub.com/realsmartmachines >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> e:[email protected] t:+353 83 4214179 >>>>>>>>> Join the quest for Machine Intelligence at http://numenta.org >>>>>>>>> Formerly of Adnet [email protected] http://www.adnet.ie >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Felix Andrews / 安福立 >>> http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >>> >> >> > > > -- > Felix Andrews / 安福立 > http://www.neurofractal.org/felix/ >
