John:

We tested with QuickRules (YasuTech).
The only non-commercial one I've used is Jess -- though it may have license
issues.

I know there is a big move to get open source XML rules engine made,
especially since the RFC is now stabilized, so there should be some strong
products coming out (hopefully soon).

I think for now, something simple that incorporates GROUP and STOP should be
sufficient for 80% of the needs (80/20 rule), as it will be flexible and
fast (and you can skip over unnecessary rules).
 
If you need any help -- please let me know (I'm not the best coder around,
but can definitely have one of my engineers follow your lead).

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Subject: Re: [Nutch-dev] make URLFilter as plugin

Hi, Chirag,

Since nutch urlfilter has been converted into plugin, I am going to take on
the idea of rule-based filtering as you suggested before, maybe a new
urlfilter plugin.
Which commercial RETE engine you used?
Any open source one?

Thanks,

John

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:03:03PM -0500, Chirag Chaman wrote:
> 
> 3. As rules grow filtering becomes slow -- prior to using Nutch we 
> were using a commercial RETE rules engine in which we have loaded the 
> REs as rules. This improved speed immensely. Maybe an overkill for 
> now.  Below is a simpler way to do this.
> 
> Here's what we're planning on building -- is this helpful? How would 
> this play in with plugins...
> 
> <GROUP> Rule Group Name
> <RULE>
>       <MATCH> RE to match </MATCH>
>       <ACTION> Discard/Substitution/GoTo </ACTION>
>       <SUBSTITUTION> Substitution </SUBSTUTION>
>       <GOTO>RuleGroupToSendProcess</GOTO>
>       <STOP> 0 or 1 - 0 would mean keep processing more rules <STOP> 
> </RULE> </GROUP>
> 
> Here's who this would work.
> 
> -Each file has a "Default" group, under which all rules are kept.
> -For more advanced rules, one could send control to another RuleGroup 
> on match (helpful when you want specific groups of rules for a certain 
> domain, extension, etc) -- this will cut down the number of rules to look
at.
> - the Stop exits upon a match or keeps processing more rules in the 
> same group.
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> John X
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Nutch-dev] make URLFilter as plugin
> 
> Hi, All,
> 
> I propose to define plugin extension point for URLFilter, and convert 
> current RegexURLFilter.java, PrefixURLFilter.java, etc., into plugins.
> However there is one requirement, different from other plugin 
> extensions: we should be able to specify the order by which plugins are
loaded and applied.
> I have not checked, but I assume, by default, we can always name 
> plugins in alphabetical order.
> Stefan: any better way to do this?
> 
> If no one thinks this is a bad idea, I am going to start work on it 
> right way.
> 
> John
> 
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