I think I'll just switch to a provider who's TOS allows me to freely provide
access with or without WEP enabled.  This has the added benefit of
internalizing some of the economic externalities that companies like TWC are
producing.

Does anyone have experience with Bway.net or AceDSL?

Thanks,

Matt

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bon sy
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:51 PM
To: Jon Russek
Cc: NYC Wireless
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] TWC - Cease & Desist...


I agree entirely. I am emailing this from the PC-Expo. Toshiba looks like
that it is going to take a position to provide fee-based wireless solution
to open space. That means anythings get into the way of anyone lookinng
from the business angle could potentially get harassed. I think
NYCwireless should look into possible mechanism to protect its members
from being harassed. 

Question is: supposed one turned on the WEP and password, would that be
sufficient to fend off the legal harassment. If so, how do we do that for
NYCwireless? If not, whatelese needs to be done? Any lwayers out ther?

BON


On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Jon Russek wrote:

> Perhaps all those Time Warner users with open nodes should turn on 40 bit
> WEP with a password very similar to our standard ssid (or password
otherwise
> decided upon off-list).  A private open node is better than a completely
> closed one and may (I'd have to look at the TOS) be more legally compliant
-
> it's just you and your "houseguests" on the connection.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NYC Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 2:47 PM
> Subject: [nycwireless] TWC - Cease & Desist...
> 
> 
> > Just thought I'd mention that I got a letter from TWC about an open
> wireless
> > network...  And asking that it be closed up or I'll have my account
> > suspended... It never actually says Cease & Desist- Always wanted one of
> > those :-) I guess I'll have to live w/ this one.
> >
> > I don't know where they got the info, but I'd imagine that it'd have to
be
> > the maps server.  My POP isn't really meant for street level access, due
> to
> > geography.. In any case, since no one else really uses it, I'm closing
it
> > up, instead of switching ISP's...
> >
> > Now-  The other side of this is that this does not affect cloud issues..
> It
> > just means RR types can't be routing data into the main internet from
the
> > cloud.
> >
> > Oh well..
> >
> > Now to contact the security guys there and tell them opps! it was only
for
> > personal routing!
> >
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >
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