I doubt that we will see these unofficial caps with bway, cloud9,
acedsl, etc. They read this forum and know that the word would spread
quickly if they did something like that. I and many others don't have a
problem with caps per say, but with the unknowable nature of how these
are enforced. If, for instance, I knew I had a 2 GB per day limit I
would break up my download of the latest Mandrake beta (2.1GB) over several
days instead of doing it all at once. And if the ISP wanted me to cut
back I would want there to be a web page where I could see how close I
was getting to the quota, and a chance to purchase more bandwidth if I
needed it. And it shouldn't cost me anything toward the cap if I made
sure to download an iso from the ISP (cloud9 mirrors NetBSD for
instance.)

Of course, with a pay for bandwidth pricing model I would want my DSL
bumped from 1500/128 to 7100/768 at the same price since it would be up
to me to keep within the dl/ul limits of the 1500/128 service anyway. I
would probably upgrade to something like the equivalent of 1500/386
service soon since the 768 upstream would allow me to do things like use
X over the connection and upload things from home without starting
the ul an hour before I leave for work.

Right now I think the ISP's are too busy struggling with the bandwidth
needs of all the Microsoft worms and viruses making the rounds to be
thinking about limiting customer serving traffic. In the last few
weeks I've had my ping time skyrocket whenever a new bug was exploited.
(I don't have any Windows machines on my network, except transient
nycwireless ones.)

BTW I only encountered bandwidth caps myself with a now defunct
dial-up internet provider. I think I must have read the NYT too often or
something since I never used that connection for anything but e-mail and
light news reading. I was of course insensed and switched to another
provider, I think I switched to earthlink, only to have them bug me
every three months to come back, until they finally went out of
business.

BTW2 Why is bandwidth now measured in mp3??? Why not list how long you
can watch c-span online (half a day) or how many CD's (2 ISOs), or DVD's
(1/5 of a two layer, 1/3 of a data disk, i.e. Mandrake), etc.

-- Daniel
  << When truth is outlawed; only outlaws will tell the truth. >> - RLiegh

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, jon baer wrote:

]wonder if this will trickle down to wifi:
]
]-snip-
]Cox Communications started phasing in hard usage limits in February, and now
]a majority of that company's subscribers are limited to downloading 2
]gigabytes a day--the equivalent of about two compressed feature-length
]movies or about 400 MP3 songs. AOL Time Warner's Road Runner cable modem
]service has no caps yet, although sources say the idea is being discussed
]internally.
]
]-snip-
]
]Putting a lid on broadband use
]http://news.com.com/2100-1034_3-5079624.html
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