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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:28:47 -0500
From: "dr d b karron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [nycwireless] Freenets in NYC ?
To: <nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net>
Cc: 'Matthew Rothman' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Is there (and I am certain there is, I just don't know who has done it in
NYC) anyone with experience in setting up
A building wide freenet amongst apartments ?

I would like to organize internet and perhaps VOIP amongst a few neighbors,
and see if we can expand this to
Our building in midtown Manhattan. Right now my WiFi sees a lot of people
with WiFi boxes (Linksys usually) in range.
Seems a shame that we should all have separate cable, telephone, and IP
connections...

It is a lot of work to setup ? Has anyone done it ?
Are their legal issues this up and bypassing the cable/phone companies in
our building ?

Cheers!


Dr. D B Karron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212 686 8748 (office/home) 212 448 0261 (fax) 347 886 9066 (dbk personal cell)



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Hi there from Adam Kb2Jpd

I am a NYC urban dweller and something for some reason I can't really explain, a ham radio amateur.

For a residential building Freenet installation, you will have to consider several aspects.

One will be the care and feeding of the access point or access points, by human means and by the Internet.How you will get Internet access to it will be another design decision you the implementer will have to make.

Getting a phone line up to the top of a building can be a remarkably difficult and expensive dilemma. In a 35 story building, I had to temporarily hijack a elevator,with the consent of the super, and run a direct phone line up the elevator shaft from the basement to the top of the building. For my trouble, Verizon sent my a bill for $1000 for a installation I had done myself and that for my hard-earned trouble and expense their "professional installers and technicians" had poorly cut and spliced into my cable. Thankfully, I bought a good spool of plenum wire with plenty of extra conductors. I let my partner ream them a new butthole.

Another aspect would be how you will want to "limit" the signal to the actual property. As an installer of several internal building repeater systems, my suggestion is if you have access to the central top floor of the building, get a WiFi antenna with directional characteristics and have it point the signal or radiation straight up and down thru the edifice. What is the style of construction used in the building? If you are blessed with wood, the microwave signal will go right thru it. If it is metal and concrete, you may have to install satellite APs in each hallway for optimum signal . Another way to solve that particular problem would be to have two access points ,one on the top floor and another one on the bottom floor. Get two Yagi-style antennae or Cantennas and have the bottom point up and the top point down. Use different channels please.

Legalwise: If you decide to use RoadRunner cable modem, as in Manhattan, for your Internet access, they may not be too pleased with you reusing their "product". Other internet providers would not be such tight-wadded and closed minded.

Well, I am out of steam. I am available for comment if you need some help.

Adam


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