It's sad that IT is being outsourced but you have to adapt as times and the
economy change. I used to be in the IT field but I changed to Engineering.
Then, as a lowly "user" I often had to contend with IT types so obsessed
with "security" that they would have completely prevented me and my teams
from doing our jobs, if we hadn't just gone ahead and broken out of their
image so we could function, maintain our networks and help our customers.
Often I would go to consult with IT staff about a particular issue and they
would be playing with Nerfball guns, surfing the web, shopping on eBay,
while my team of field engineers and myself were working 70 hour weeks.
You'd never even see them before 9 am in the morning and you would NEVER
reach one of them at 2 or 3 am! That experience may have been unique to my
job and my company, but it causes me to have less sympathy that all of those
folks are no longer in those positions. 
Just my 2 cents.

Jim

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> Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - 
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> 
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 22:28, Jim Henry wrote:
> > No. Check the stats.  Do you read any business publications?
> > 
> 
> Yeah as a matter of fact I read the Wall Street Journal DAILY 
> including the moronic editorial on this exact topic 2 days ago.
> 
> I'll tell you what else I read, the unemployment of IT 
> professionals in NYC.  Its fairly unpleasant for a lot of 
> people who have been essentially screwed by Telco and the 
> Cable Man (along with others I might add).
> 
> Ruben
> 
> 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > << Make the U.S. more competitive?  Look around you! It is
> > > other nations who need to emulate us to attempt to compete 
> > > with US. And as a relative measure against ourselves, by all 
> > > the parameters used to measure the health of the U.S. economy 
> > > (unemployment pct, cost of living, inflation, # people 
> > > employed, home ownership, inflation, GDP,
> > > etc.) the U.S. economy has never been better or stronger.>>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > BTW this is rather insulting.  Have you actually been
> > > sleepwalking through the last 6 years of the high tech economy?
> > > 
> > > 
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