I agree with the thought that there should be one place to report rarities so everyone can see the reports. The NYSBirds list is the place where that has been done for many years. I am one of those who doesn't use other sites or modern technology to find out about rarities. I only use the Cornell list and don't see why all people don't report there first and then if they want to report to other places that's fine. In my opinion it's selfish not to report to a general place first. I've noticed that this is the same in a lot of the other states in the area where some don't report to the state RBA. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629 Phone: 914-963-3080; Cell: 914-319-9701
From: Paul R Sweet <sw...@amnh.org> To: Andrew Baksh <birdingd...@gmail.com> Cc: Ethan Maitra <astrobirde...@yahoo.com>; "ebirds...@yahoogroups.com" <ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>; nysbirds-l <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher <!--#yiv5439411504 _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:"MS Mincho";panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:"MS Mincho";panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Verdana;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody;panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}#yiv5439411504 #yiv5439411504 p.yiv5439411504MsoNormal, #yiv5439411504 li.yiv5439411504MsoNormal, #yiv5439411504 div.yiv5439411504MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", "serif";}#yiv5439411504 a:link, #yiv5439411504 span.yiv5439411504MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5439411504 a:visited, #yiv5439411504 span.yiv5439411504MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5439411504 p {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", "serif";}#yiv5439411504 p.yiv5439411504MsoAcetate, #yiv5439411504 li.yiv5439411504MsoAcetate, #yiv5439411504 div.yiv5439411504MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";}#yiv5439411504 span.yiv5439411504BalloonTextChar {font-family:"Tahoma", "sans-serif";}#yiv5439411504 span.yiv5439411504EmailStyle20 {font-family:"Times New Roman", "serif";}#yiv5439411504 .yiv5439411504MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv5439411504 div.yiv5439411504WordSection1 {}#yiv5439411504 _filtered #yiv5439411504 {} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Symbol;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:"Courier New";} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv5439411504 {font-family:Wingdings;}#yiv5439411504 ol {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv5439411504 ul {margin-bottom:0in;}-->As I think I'm being called out here perhaps let's talk about some recommendations on how rarities are reported? Andrew you could take the lead here? One problem is that there are two “rare bird alerts” for NY that are often filled with run-of-the-mill daily lists and non rarity sightings. While these are of interest to some, they dilute the power of an RBA. As a suggestion could we make a recommendation that one of these becomes a true RBA for NYSARC reportable or at least scarce taxa only (nysbirds-l@cornell.edu) and the other a site for daily lists and musings on other aspects of local birding (ebirds...@yahoogroups.com). Of course the proliferation of bird alerts on Social Media such as #birdcp on Twitter and various WhatsAp and text alert groups add to the confusion. In short it would be great to standardize how and where true rare bird info appears. Ideally we should have a true RBA listserve like the one that Lloyd ran a few years ago. Over to you Andrew. Paul Sweet Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941 On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc] <ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Good point but for many, the Nassau County ATFL might be out of the way. More interesting for me, is how the Brooklyn bird was reported. It appears to me that we are once again seeing a break down on how rare to uncommon birds are being reported. I'll withhold fire for now but I again urge all in the game to keep up the generosity of sharing and sharing early and to the wider community. There are a lot of birders who don't text, tweet or are not using any form of social media to communicate. Let's not leave them out. Thanks -------- "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass 風 Swift as the wind 林 Quiet as the forest 火 Conquer like the fire 山 Steady as the mountain Sun Tzu The Art of War (\__/) (= '.'=) (") _ (") Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! Andrew Baksh www.birdingdude.blogspot.com On Nov 20, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Ethan Maitra astrobirde...@yahoo.com [ebirdsnyc] <ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Meanwhile, there's an Ash-throated Flycatcher in Nassau (West Lido Beach Town Park) that is visible from the public parking lot.... __._,_.___ Posted by: Andrew Baksh <birdingd...@gmail.com> | Reply via web post | • | Reply to sender | • | Reply to group | • | Start a New Topic | • | Messages in this topic (5) | Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. 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