It is the repetition that increases the probability of radicalization. I also ask that Mr. Fiore changes his style. I still enjoy his updates on Manhattan birds. But keep these controversial issues out of his email. And no, I am not applying "cancel culture" on Mr. Fiore. (This is directed to a private email I received). It is the policy of this list to keep non-rare-bird-alerts issue out of this list. I remember this very well.
Sent using Zoho Mail ---- On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:12:31 -0500 Liam Brock <wrb...@nyu.edu> wrote ---- > Just so I understand the position you're taking here, Gus—you truly believe > that someone posting innocuous ethics reminders at the end of listserv > emails is radicalizing people and putting you in danger? > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 9:59 AM Gus Keri <gusk...@zoho.com> wrote: > I think the moderators of this list should learn from what happened in > Washington DC on Wednesday and block Mr. Thomas Fiore from posting on this > list ever again. (or at least ask him to change his style) > > Here is why. > > After I joined this list, I became fond of his emails because of the > valuable info he provides about the birds of Manhattan. I also noted that at > the end of every email he thanks the birders who follow birding ethics > focusing on few issues: minimizing disturbance to birds, not playing > recorder and not disclosing roost location. > > At the beginning it didn’t bother me and I reached a point when I stopped > reading that paragraph. > But lately, it started to bother me because I found out that when you repeat > certain “propaganda” over and over and over again, it will lead to > radicalization of people. > > Ask President Trump about that. > > I remember when Mr. Robert DeCandido wrote an email telling people that he > was assaulted by one birder because he was playing birds songs in Central > park. This is one form of radicalization. Birders think they are entitled to > do anything to protect birds, even violence against another human being. > > I am also a victim of this radicalization. > > Because I post photos of owls on twitter, I was subjected to what I call a > “cancel culture.” Some birders started boycotting me and started to spread > false rumors about me that I am a danger to birds. They even apply their > “cancel culture” on any person who is perceived as a friend of mine, to the > point that some people who have nothing to do with it started to avoid me. > > What happened to Mr DeCandido and what I am hearing being said about me > behind my back made me worried about my own safety. I became very cautious > when I go birding especially that I do all my birding alone. I became afraid > of birders. It is unbelievable, I know you would say that. But this is the > truth. > > I became very withdrawn and started avoiding all birders, except those who I > know they are friendly to me. > > I think you got my point on why Mr. Fiore should be blocked. His persistence > in writing these things help radicalizing birders. But you might say > promoting good birding ethics is a good thing. The problem is that there are > significant number of birders who don’t agree with these ethics and some of > them are very big in bird watching and birding research. > > It doesn’t matter what side you are on. The attack on the Capitol on > Wednesday was committed by the radicalized right. But the radicalized left > is also capable of similar acts if they have a chance. It is the > radicalization that is the problem. And there is so much radicalization in > the birding community, I am afraid. > > Some people might consider me radical when it comes to posting photos of > owls or consider Mr DeCandido as radical in using songs playing but at least > I don’t resort to violence or cancel culture or spreading false rumors and > to the best of my knowledge Mr. DeCandido doesn’t do either. > > So, please, Stop the radicalization and block Mr. Fiore. > > Thank you > Gus Keri > > > > > ---- On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:59:01 -0500 Thomas Fiore <tom...@earthlink.net> > wrote ---- > > Extralimital, south of NY and reported on Tues., Jan. 5th as “headed > north”, a nicely-photographed Red-billed Tropicbird off Ocean City Inlet, in > Maryland, is quite a sighting for mid-winter especially that far north; > report in eBird: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ebird.org_checklist_S78709999&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=MNtTHtxS6IWnVgmB59pJROAbjL5cDXzwpvYdMg0-FBs&e= > > > . . .New York County (in N.Y. City) including Manhattan and Randall’s > Islands. > > It seems there are no newer reports of a Greater White-fronted Goose for > N.Y. County since Jan. 7th at Central Park’s reservoir, when more than 50 > observers saw this bird at various times. There have been, at times, ongoing > good numbers of Canada Geese, in various flock-sizes, moving about Central > Park, and also ongoing around Randall’s Island. > > A good find on Wed., 1/6 was a Lesser Black-backed Gull, photographed by > J. Keane at Randall’s Island, off the southeasterern edge; it is possible > this gull might be lingering. > > Both Western Tanagers that have been, respectively (one) near & sometimes > on West 22nd St. in the Chelsea neighborhood, and (one, other) mostly in & > near Carl Schurz Park off East End Ave. & adjacent to E. 86th St. (nearest > park entry to where that 2nd tanager’s been most-often seen) have continued, > albeit both having become trickier to find with ease, as each is wandering a > bit more with a search, most-likely, for enough food the primary issue at > each of the 2 areas (which are separated by several miles). The Carl Schurz > Park tanager has, at least several times in recent days, gone to the eastern > parts of the park to locate some food, despite the now-available ‘goodies’ > such as a suet-block & at least 3 types of fruits, plus food more suited to > seed-eating species, in the western edges, all south of the E. 86th St. park > entrance. In addition, that tanager has been making ongoing forays not just > to trees along E. End Ave. but also up on to buildings there, & possibly on > to the nearest streets, at times. Similarly, the 'W. 22nd St.' (other) > tanager in Chelsea has been ranging about & has gone across Tenth Ave. as > well as up to at least 23rd St. & by the High Line, movements that were also > seen by that bird even some weeks ago, if not too regularly then. Thus, the > increased difficulty of locating either of these as often as had been > previously possible. So far, neither seems to have one particular ‘new’ > location that is fully reliable; however I found each on Sunday, 1/10, with > a fair amount of effort. The Carl Schurz Park bird was not as tough, but > still some several hrs. were put in at that location. The Chelsea tanager > was seen on both Tenth Ave. (briefly, where I had seen it a few previous > times, not in street trees but in flight) and up along W. 23rd, but then > again at W. 22nd, just across from Clement Clark Moore Park (which is > primarily a children’s play area). > > The Eastern Phoebe that was found on the Manhattan (portion of) the > Christmas Bird Count turned up in the same area, at Stuyvesantown off First > Ave. in Manhattan’s almost-lower east side, on Saturday (1/9), & seen again > Sun. 1/10; re-found by Ron Lulov. This is virtually certain to be that same > bird from Dec. 20th, a full 3 weeks+ later. > > A Tennessee Warbler has again turned up on Randall’s Island, after not > being seen for some weeks, on Saturday 1/9 (separate sightings by G. > Stankovic, D. Aronov), and that warbler was still present at least as of > Sunday, 1/10. On 1/8, an Ovenbird was found (C. McRae) at Madison Square > Park in Manhattan. At least one Yellow-rumped [Myrtle] Warbler is also > lingering at Randall’s Island in an area where one had been. There may > possibly be a few other warblers around that (so far) survived into this > winter’s colder times. > > A Yellow-crowned Night-Heron has been ongoing at the Little Hell Gate > saltmarsh on Randall’s Island. A female-plumaged N. Pintail was found at > Swindler Cove / Sherman Creek (east & north of the eastern terminus of > Dyckman Street in Manhattan) by G.&T. Plowman on Sat., 1/9, the latter > location where a Pintail had been in the fall also. A drake Wood Duck has > continued on the Central Park Meer this month, and to Sunday, 1/10. > > A lone Rusty Blackbird has been regular for some time in the Central Park > Ramble. Among other species being seen in the past several days in N.Y. > County are: Canada Goose, [Atlantic] Brant, Wood Duck (mostly at the > Central Park Meer), Gadwall, American Black Duck, Mallard, Northern > Shoveler, Greater Scaup (rivers), Bufflehead, Common Goldeneye (from > Randall’s Island, albeit often in non-N.Y. County waters), Hooded Merganser, > Red-breasted Merganser (rivers, harbor, etc.), Ruddy Duck, Red-throated > Loon, Common Loon, Great Cormorant, Double-crested Cormorant, Great Blue > Heron, Turkey Vulture, Bald Eagle (multiple individuals including flyovers > of Central Park, & far more often along Hudson river), Cooper's Hawk, > Red-shouldered Hawk (seems to be at least one wintering at Inwood), > Red-tailed Hawk, American Coot, Ring-billed Gull, [American] Herring Gull, > Great Black-backed Gull, ['feral'] Rock Pigeon, Mourning Dove, American > Kestrel, Merlin (occasional sightings), Peregrine Falcon, multi.owls, Belted > Kingfisher (several locations incl. Randall’s Island), Red-bellied > Woodpecker, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker (dozens are present on Manhattan island > now), Downy Woodpecker, Hairy Woodpecker, Yellow-shafted Flicker, Blue Jay, > Common Raven, American Crow, Fish Crow, Black-capped Chickadee, Tufted > Titmouse, Red-breasted Nuthatch, White-breasted Nuthatch, Brown Creeper, > Carolina Wren, Winter Wren, Ruby-crowned Kinglet, Hermit Thrush, American > Robin, Gray Catbird, Northern Mockingbird, Brown Thrasher (multiple > locations), House Sparrow, European Starling, Cedar Waxwing, Eastern Towhee, > Slate-colored Junco, American Tree Sparrow (in the multiple, & in multiple > locations), Chipping Sparrow (several - wintering), Field Sparrow (1), [Red] > Fox Sparrow, Song Sparrow, Lincoln's Sparrow (at least 3 wintering in 3 > different parks), Swamp Sparrow (multiple), White-throated Sparrow, Northern > Cardinal, Red-winged Blackbird, Common Grackle, Brown-headed Cowbird, Purple > Finch, House Finch, Pine Siskin, American Goldfinch, and likely at least a > few others. > > ..Back on Jan. 2nd, a Painted Lady (Vanessa cardui) butterfly was found > in good condition & photographed by M. Freeman with 3 other observers, at > the Conservatory Garden of Central Park. > > . . . . .Good birding to all - and thanks to the many who also keep the > birds’ best interests at heart when out in the field - and limit any > possible disturbances to the birds’ requirements for food, shelter, & > safety, including for the many migrants a safe passage on their often long > journeys as well as birds now on roost sites. > > Tom Fiore,manhattan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- NYSbirds-L > List Info: Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > ABA Please submit your observations to > eBird! -- > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.NortheastBirding.com_NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=mxNQmaP8gR_7h-ndMxgyVlpZ3xjUxO-5Us2EXJ9gZIA&e= > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.NortheastBirding.com_NYSbirdsRULES.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=A2oCWWVbC7L1siHZMHWESV5gkfzVDpHMtV2eIYz0EpQ&e= > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.NortheastBirding.com_NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=STh2wRAXDsEnjV1uNCjXtjTniuVhMerULGuEe-zzTqo&e= > > > ARCHIVES: > 1) > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.mail-2Darchive.com_nysbirds-2Dl-40cornell.edu_maillist.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=Wfe7z6mOXA6y2vG0q2LQcDAID48P--SoT5hfR4fzM6U&e= > > 2) > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.surfbirds.com_birdingmail_Group_NYSBirds-2DL&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=Sx2P4GUg01sIaL-5pLtgZ2hHscTVoUKaRFyNwrK-JOk&e= > > 3) > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__birding.aba.org_maillist_NY01&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=7qzzRNu_xnewwZnbZFOi_3lYarvKvwg2bhFtrPOjVkg&e= > > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ebird.org_content_ebird_&d=DwIFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=7nwfbHWZRim8f0lnbG90YA&m=rh3DeM7tMjTYyd3hOvLBNH48TR2eBUqeU-34pcQXhFI&s=1JagSin6Rdz8rkTnAx0GFRu4Km1tbYEwHqwzIlnGhFU&e= > > > -- > > -- NYSbirds-L List > Info: Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > ABA Please submit your observations to > eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
