I'm not the administrator, but I'd ask that this stops this now. I read this for news of birds, not for angry comments. If you must say something do it individually...personally I think it'd better if you just go outside and take a breath.
-----Original Message----- From: bounce-125280653-10774...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-125280653-10774...@list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Corey Finger Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 11:34 AM To: Gus Keri <gusk...@zoho.com> Cc: Thomas Fiore <tom...@earthlink.net>; NYS Birds <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 1/10 & prior days: L. B.-b. Gull, 2 W. Tanagers, E. Phoebe, etc. ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails. This is among the dumbest thing I have ever read. To conflate a simple statement of concern for birds and ethical behavior with the radicalization that led to coup attempt and at least 5 deaths is just incredibly stupid and tone deaf. If you post photos of owls on Twitter with locations and that leads to people wanting to have nothing to do with you and that bothers you maybe you should stop posting exact locations of owls? And stop blaming others for the fact that your unethical behavior leads to people not liking you? Get a grip. Good Birding, Corey Finger Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 11, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Gus Keri <gusk...@zoho.com> wrote: > > I think the moderators of this list should learn from what happened in > Washington DC on Wednesday and block Mr. Thomas Fiore from posting on this > list ever again. (or at least ask him to change his style) > > Here is why. > > After I joined this list, I became fond of his emails because of the valuable > info he provides about the birds of Manhattan. I also noted that at the end > of every email he thanks the birders who follow birding ethics focusing on > few issues: minimizing disturbance to birds, not playing recorder and not > disclosing roost location. > > At the beginning it didn’t bother me and I reached a point when I stopped > reading that paragraph. > But lately, it started to bother me because I found out that when you repeat > certain “propaganda” over and over and over again, it will lead to > radicalization of people. > > Ask President Trump about that. > > I remember when Mr. Robert DeCandido wrote an email telling people that he > was assaulted by one birder because he was playing birds songs in Central > park. This is one form of radicalization. Birders think they are entitled to > do anything to protect birds, even violence against another human being. > > I am also a victim of this radicalization. > > Because I post photos of owls on twitter, I was subjected to what I call a > “cancel culture.” Some birders started boycotting me and started to spread > false rumors about me that I am a danger to birds. They even apply their > “cancel culture” on any person who is perceived as a friend of mine, to the > point that some people who have nothing to do with it started to avoid me. > > What happened to Mr DeCandido and what I am hearing being said about me > behind my back made me worried about my own safety. I became very cautious > when I go birding especially that I do all my birding alone. I became afraid > of birders. It is unbelievable, I know you would say that. But this is the > truth. > > I became very withdrawn and started avoiding all birders, except those who I > know they are friendly to me. > > I think you got my point on why Mr. Fiore should be blocked. His persistence > in writing these things help radicalizing birders. But you might say > promoting good birding ethics is a good thing. The problem is that there are > significant number of birders who don’t agree with these ethics and some of > them are very big in bird watching and birding research. > > It doesn’t matter what side you are on. The attack on the Capitol on > Wednesday was committed by the radicalized right. But the radicalized left is > also capable of similar acts if they have a chance. It is the radicalization > that is the problem. And there is so much radicalization in the birding > community, I am afraid. > > Some people might consider me radical when it comes to posting photos of owls > or consider Mr DeCandido as radical in using songs playing but at least I > don’t resort to violence or cancel culture or spreading false rumors and to > the best of my knowledge Mr. DeCandido doesn’t do either. > > So, please, Stop the radicalization and block Mr. Fiore. > > Thank you > Gus Keri > > > > > ---- On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 05:59:01 -0500 Thomas Fiore <tom...@earthlink.net> > wrote ---- >> Extralimital, south of NY and reported on Tues., Jan. 5th as “headed north”, >> a nicely-photographed Red-billed Tropicbird off Ocean City Inlet, in >> Maryland, is quite a sighting for mid-winter especially that far north; >> report in eBird: https://ebird.org/checklist/S78709999 >> . . .New York County (in N.Y. City) including Manhattan and Randall’s >> Islands. >> It seems there are no newer reports of a Greater White-fronted Goose for >> N.Y. County since Jan. 7th at Central Park’s reservoir, when more than 50 >> observers saw this bird at various times. There have been, at times, ongoing >> good numbers of Canada Geese, in various flock-sizes, moving about Central >> Park, and also ongoing around Randall’s Island. >> A good find on Wed., 1/6 was a Lesser Black-backed Gull, photographed by J. >> Keane at Randall’s Island, off the southeasterern edge; it is possible this >> gull might be lingering. >> Both Western Tanagers that have been, respectively (one) near & sometimes on >> West 22nd St. in the Chelsea neighborhood, and (one, other) mostly in & near >> Carl Schurz Park off East End Ave. & adjacent to E. 86th St. (nearest park >> entry to where that 2nd tanager’s been most-often seen) have continued, >> albeit both having become trickier to find with ease, as each is wandering a >> bit more with a search, most-likely, for enough food the primary issue at >> each of the 2 areas (which are separated by several miles). The Carl Schurz >> Park tanager has, at least several times in recent days, gone to the eastern >> parts of the park to locate some food, despite the now-available ‘goodies’ >> such as a suet-block & at least 3 types of fruits, plus food more suited to >> seed-eating species, in the western edges, all south of the E. 86th St. park >> entrance. In addition, that tanager has been making ongoing forays not just >> to trees along E. End Ave. but also up on to buildings there, & possibly on >> to the nearest streets, at times. Similarly, the 'W. 22nd St.' (other) >> tanager in Chelsea has been ranging about & has gone across Tenth Ave. as >> well as up to at least 23rd St. & by the High Line, movements that were also >> seen by that bird even some weeks ago, if not too regularly then. Thus, the >> increased difficulty of locating either of these as often as had been >> previously possible. So far, neither seems to have one particular ‘new’ >> location that is fully reliable; however I found each on Sunday, 1/10, with >> a fair amount of effort. The Carl Schurz Park bird was not as tough, but >> still some several hrs. were put in at that location. The Chelsea tanager >> was seen on both Tenth Ave. (briefly, where I had seen it a few previous >> times, not in street trees but in flight) and up along W. 23rd, but then >> again at W. 22nd, just across from Clement Clark Moore Park (which is >> primarily a children’s play area). >> The Eastern Phoebe that was found on the Manhattan (portion of) the >> Christmas Bird Count turned up in the same area, at Stuyvesantown off First >> Ave. in Manhattan’s almost-lower east side, on Saturday (1/9), & seen again >> Sun. 1/10; re-found by Ron Lulov. This is virtually certain to be that same >> bird from Dec. 20th, a full 3 weeks+ later. >> A Tennessee Warbler has again turned up on Randall’s Island, after not being >> seen for some weeks, on Saturday 1/9 (separate sightings by G. Stankovic, D. >> Aronov), and that warbler was still present at least as of Sunday, 1/10. On >> 1/8, an Ovenbird was found (C. McRae) at Madison Square Park in Manhattan. >> At least one Yellow-rumped [Myrtle] Warbler is also lingering at Randall’s >> Island in an area where one had been. There may possibly be a few other >> warblers around that (so far) survived into this winter’s colder times. >> A Yellow-crowned Night-Heron has been ongoing at the Little Hell Gate >> saltmarsh on Randall’s Island. A female-plumaged N. Pintail was found at >> Swindler Cove / Sherman Creek (east & north of the eastern terminus of >> Dyckman Street in Manhattan) by G.&T. Plowman on Sat., 1/9, the latter >> location where a Pintail had been in the fall also. A drake Wood Duck has >> continued on the Central Park Meer this month, and to Sunday, 1/10. >> A lone Rusty Blackbird has been regular for some time in the Central Park >> Ramble. Among other species being seen in the past several days in N.Y. >> County are: Canada Goose, [Atlantic] Brant, Wood Duck (mostly at the >> Central Park Meer), Gadwall, American Black Duck, Mallard, Northern >> Shoveler, Greater Scaup (rivers), Bufflehead, Common Goldeneye (from >> Randall’s Island, albeit often in non-N.Y. County waters), Hooded Merganser, >> Red-breasted Merganser (rivers, harbor, etc.), Ruddy Duck, Red-throated >> Loon, Common Loon, Great Cormorant, Double-crested Cormorant, Great Blue >> Heron, Turkey Vulture, Bald Eagle (multiple individuals including flyovers >> of Central Park, & far more often along Hudson river), Cooper's Hawk, >> Red-shouldered Hawk (seems to be at least one wintering at Inwood), >> Red-tailed Hawk, American Coot, Ring-billed Gull, [American] Herring Gull, >> Great Black-backed Gull, ['feral'] Rock Pigeon, Mourning Dove, American >> Kestrel, Merlin (occasional sightings), Peregrine Falcon, multi.owls, Belted >> Kingfisher (several locations incl. Randall’s Island), Red-bellied >> Woodpecker, Yellow-bellied Sapsucker (dozens are present on Manhattan island >> now), Downy Woodpecker, Hairy Woodpecker, Yellow-shafted Flicker, Blue Jay, >> Common Raven, American Crow, Fish Crow, Black-capped Chickadee, Tufted >> Titmouse, Red-breasted Nuthatch, White-breasted Nuthatch, Brown Creeper, >> Carolina Wren, Winter Wren, Ruby-crowned Kinglet, Hermit Thrush, American >> Robin, Gray Catbird, Northern Mockingbird, Brown Thrasher (multiple >> locations), House Sparrow, European Starling, Cedar Waxwing, Eastern Towhee, >> Slate-colored Junco, American Tree Sparrow (in the multiple, & in multiple >> locations), Chipping Sparrow (several - wintering), Field Sparrow (1), [Red] >> Fox Sparrow, Song Sparrow, Lincoln's Sparrow (at least 3 wintering in 3 >> different parks), Swamp Sparrow (multiple), White-throated Sparrow, Northern >> Cardinal, Red-winged Blackbird, Common Grackle, Brown-headed Cowbird, Purple >> Finch, House Finch, Pine Siskin, American Goldfinch, and likely at least a >> few others. >> ..Back on Jan. 2nd, a Painted Lady (Vanessa cardui) butterfly was found in >> good condition & photographed by M. Freeman with 3 other observers, at the >> Conservatory Garden of Central Park. >> . . . . .Good birding to all - and thanks to the many who also keep the >> birds’ best interests at heart when out in the field - and limit any >> possible disturbances to the birds’ requirements for food, shelter, & >> safety, including for the many migrants a safe passage on their often long >> journeys as well as birds now on roost sites. >> Tom Fiore,manhattan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: >> The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=dcbccc78-8327f55c-dcbe354d-000babd9f8b3-0fbe8f91476992aa&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=e5452fc6-bade16e2-e547d6f3-000babd9f8b3-fa5a8ec6e8dc1fa8&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsRULES.htm > https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=a232ca75-fda9f351-a2303340-000babd9f8b3-51c5eb74b3e45ed6&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) > https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=c4aa9112-9b31a836-c4a86827-000babd9f8b3-d266defc084e91cc&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.surfbirds.com%2Fbirdingmail%2FGroup%2FNYSBirds-L > 3) > https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=6ee43fbe-317f069a-6ee6c68b-000babd9f8b3-2d5006992d1447eb&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbirding.aba.org%2Fmaillist%2FNY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=e744e310-b8dfda34-e7461a25-000babd9f8b3-221601ef2b4ecbaf&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME.htm https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=87ded82b-d845e10f-87dc211e-000babd9f8b3-3b0343732c902cb6&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsRULES.htm https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=cbc724f2-945c1dd6-cbc5ddc7-000babd9f8b3-230c0d95829c545a&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=f5bc106a-aa27294e-f5bee95f-000babd9f8b3-555874694f88b8bd&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.surfbirds.com%2Fbirdingmail%2FGroup%2FNYSBirds-L 3) https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=16deb63a-49458f1e-16dc4f0f-000babd9f8b3-b0b2252136ad266d&q=1&e=48e20d5d-0f2b-439a-8122-532d60dacd25&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbirding.aba.org%2Fmaillist%2FNY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
