The DEC waterfowl regulations are rather specific when it comes to the
named species - Mallard, Scaup sp., Eider, sp., Canvasbacks, etc. But when
it comes to any not so specified, it's all in: "  For all other duck
species found in New York, the daily limit is 6.". So while a hunter may
take  4 long-tailed ducks, or 2 hooded mergansers, for example, that hunter
may take up to 6 Fulvous Whistling-Ducks, Garganeys, Eurasian Wigeon,
Smews, or any combination of those &tc. And, yes.  A lot of hunters would
like one or more of those rarities for their trophy wall.

Rules need to be amended.

Rich Guthrie

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:13 AM Eileen Schwinn <beach...@optonline.net>
wrote:

> I’ve been holding off because I haven’t seen any geeses!!!!  Ditto the
> King Eider - I did report yesterday - hunters were in the area.  The King
> left the sandbar when a small boat approached.
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 14, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Smith <gosh...@gisco.net> wrote:
>
> My question is are any of these species legal to take in NY?  I suspect
> the geese may not be while the ducks probably are. I applaud keeping
> information out of e-bird but also letting environmental conservation
> officers know that some bad apples may be skirting the rules. While one
> wishes to avoid all out war a few skirmishes might be in order. Interesting
> problem you have down there as I suspect most of the northern NY
> sportsperson community would be oblivious of e bird Good Luck
>
> Birds rise above it all
>
> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Patricia Lindsay <gelocheli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> With the hunting season now upon us, and the Waterfowl Count starting on
> Saturday, we would like to make a serious plea that birders and
> photographers not post reports of rare geese from Riverhead and the East
> End of Long Island on eBird, Facebook, this listserv, or any other social
> media platform until the end of the season.
>
> It has become very clear here on LI that hunters have caught on to eBird,
> the listservs, and social media, and are targeting the rare geese (and
> ducks also) using information obtained from birders. One of the only
> Pink-footed Geese in the Riverhead area last winter was shot this way, and
> we personally know of other cases involving Ross's and Barnacle Geese (and
> King Eiders, etc.). A Greylag Goose, very likely of wild origins and if so,
> extremely rare, was also shot in this area a few years ago.
>
> The problem is most acute in the Riverhead area and on the South Fork,
> from November to the end of hunting season (9 Feb for Canada Goose, 6 Mar
> for Snow Goose). We understand that the birding community does not want war
> with the hunters, but the situation here is very sensitive--everybody knows
> the very limited number of specific fields used by the geese, and it seems
> a shame that the rarer species are being exposed to this level of danger.
>
> We would suggest Cackling, Ross's, Barnacle, Pink-footed, and Greater
> White-fronted Geese, and of course any mega rare species, seen in these
> areas not be reported until hunting season ends or at least until the geese
> seem to have moved on.
>
> Cackling and Greater White-fronted Goose may be taken legally as part of
> the Canada Goose bag limits. Snow and Ross's Geese may be taken as part of
> the Snow Goose bag limits. The others are not listed as game species on the
> DEC website so apparently were taken illegally.
>
> By making this one small sacrifice, we might just be able to save a few
> birds and get to enjoy them longer.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Best,
>
> Shai Mitra and Pat Lindsay
> Bay Shore
>
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