Thanks I did not realize rules are so loose Definitely improvements needed
Birds rise above it all > On Jan 14, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Richard Guthrie <richardpguth...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The DEC waterfowl regulations are rather specific when it comes to the named > species - Mallard, Scaup sp., Eider, sp., Canvasbacks, etc. But when it comes > to any not so specified, it's all in: " For all other duck species found in > New York, the daily limit is 6.". So while a hunter may take 4 long-tailed > ducks, or 2 hooded mergansers, for example, that hunter may take up to 6 > Fulvous Whistling-Ducks, Garganeys, Eurasian Wigeon, Smews, or any > combination of those &tc. And, yes. A lot of hunters would like one or more > of those rarities for their trophy wall. > > Rules need to be amended. > > Rich Guthrie > >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:13 AM Eileen Schwinn <beach...@optonline.net> >> wrote: >> I’ve been holding off because I haven’t seen any geeses!!!! Ditto the King >> Eider - I did report yesterday - hunters were in the area. The King left >> the sandbar when a small boat approached. >> Eileen >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Smith <gosh...@gisco.net> wrote: >>>> >>> My question is are any of these species legal to take in NY? I suspect >>> the geese may not be while the ducks probably are. I applaud keeping >>> information out of e-bird but also letting environmental conservation >>> officers know that some bad apples may be skirting the rules. While one >>> wishes to avoid all out war a few skirmishes might be in order. Interesting >>> problem you have down there as I suspect most of the northern NY >>> sportsperson community would be oblivious of e bird Good Luck >>> >>> Birds rise above it all >>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:12 AM, Patricia Lindsay <gelocheli...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> With the hunting season now upon us, and the Waterfowl Count starting on >>>> Saturday, we would like to make a serious plea that birders and >>>> photographers not post reports of rare geese from Riverhead and the East >>>> End of Long Island on eBird, Facebook, this listserv, or any other social >>>> media platform until the end of the season. >>>> >>>> It has become very clear here on LI that hunters have caught on to eBird, >>>> the listservs, and social media, and are targeting the rare geese (and >>>> ducks also) using information obtained from birders. One of the only >>>> Pink-footed Geese in the Riverhead area last winter was shot this way, and >>>> we personally know of other cases involving Ross's and Barnacle Geese (and >>>> King Eiders, etc.). A Greylag Goose, very likely of wild origins and if >>>> so, extremely rare, was also shot in this area a few years ago. >>>> >>>> The problem is most acute in the Riverhead area and on the South Fork, >>>> from November to the end of hunting season (9 Feb for Canada Goose, 6 Mar >>>> for Snow Goose). We understand that the birding community does not want >>>> war with the hunters, but the situation here is very sensitive--everybody >>>> knows the very limited number of specific fields used by the geese, and it >>>> seems a shame that the rarer species are being exposed to this level of >>>> danger. >>>> >>>> We would suggest Cackling, Ross's, Barnacle, Pink-footed, and Greater >>>> White-fronted Geese, and of course any mega rare species, seen in these >>>> areas not be reported until hunting season ends or at least until the >>>> geese seem to have moved on. >>>> >>>> Cackling and Greater White-fronted Goose may be taken legally as part of >>>> the Canada Goose bag limits. Snow and Ross's Geese may be taken as part of >>>> the Snow Goose bag limits. The others are not listed as game species on >>>> the DEC website so apparently were taken illegally. >>>> >>>> By making this one small sacrifice, we might just be able to save a few >>>> birds and get to enjoy them longer. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your consideration. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Shai Mitra and Pat Lindsay >>>> Bay Shore >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> Rules and Information >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> Archives: >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> Surfbirds >>>> ABA >>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>> -- >>> -- >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics >>> Rules and Information >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive >>> Surfbirds >>> ABA >>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>> -- >> >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> ABA >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > > -- > Richard Guthrie > > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > ABA > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --