I think most would if they know their actions could put birds and baby
birds in jeopardy. We can carry this discussion further off-line if
you'd like.
------ Original Message ------
From: gusk...@zoho.com
To: jose.ramirez.garof...@rutgers.edu
Cc: redk...@optonline.net; NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Bank Swallow nests at Plumb Beach
The question is: will people obey the signs?
---- On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 16:27:49 -0400 Jose Ramirez-Garofalo
<jose.ramirez.garof...@rutgers.edu> wrote ---
> Unfortunately, not likely, We have tried this on Staten Island.
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: redk...@optonline.net <redk...@optonline.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 4:22:05 PM
> To: Gus Keri <gusk...@zoho.com>; Jose Ramirez-Garofalo
<jose.ramirez.garof...@rutgers.edu>
> Cc: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
> Subject: Re: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Bank Swallow nests at Plumb
Beach Gus: Thank you for sharing some good news! Do you think that signs
and
> roping could be put on top to prevent humans from compressing the
> nesting chambers?
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: gusk...@zoho.com
> To: jose.ramirez.garof...@rutgers.edu
> Cc: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Bank Swallow nests at Plumb
Beach
>
> Great news!
> After I saw the photo of the nestling taken by another birder 3
days
> ago (I am sorry for not mentioning his/her name. I don't know if
he/she
> wants the publicity), I had to go and check on the fate of this
nestling
> and the nest.
>
> The moment I arrived, I noticed that the nest that was half
occluded
> yesterday is wide open today. It made me happy to see that the
swallow
> re-opened it. Looking inside, I could see the chick is alive and
well.
>
> Few minutes later, an adult came and fed the chick and I recorded
the
> feeding act on video. You can see it here:
>
>
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> To the best of my knowledge, this is the first ever Bank Swallow
> offspring that was born in Brooklyn. If this is inaccurate, please,
let
> me know.
>
> The fact that this nest is wide open proved to me again that no
bird
> will ever abandon its chicks permanently. They might abandon them
for a
> short period of time when there is a danger around, but they always
come
> back to care for them after the danger goes away. At least this is
my
> experience with all the nests I have followed over the years.
>
> This Swallow couldn't let its chick be buried alive.
>
> As for the other nests, they are still occluded. Two of them
totally
> occluded and the third is half occluded. My thinking that there are
no
> living chicks inside. The swallows probably abandoned their eggs,
and
> they might try laying eggs in another burrow, like Jose suggested.
>
> Good birding to all
> Gus Keri
>
>
>
> ---- On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:30:59 -0400 Jose Ramirez-Garofalo
> <jose.ramirez.garof...@rutgers.edu> wrote ---
> >
> > Gus,
> >
> > Unfortunately, that is a common occurrence with Bank Swallow
> colonies on the coast. There is really no way to adequately protect
the
> nests unless the land management agency fences off the top of the
> dune/bluff. Disturbance to the front of the colony site can also a
> problem at a site like Plumb—though less-so than actual nest
collapse.
> Since they aren’t protected (not even as a Species of Special
Concern
> despite their widespread declines in NYS/the northeast), it isn’t
likely
> that targeted measures will be undertaken for the swallows there.
> >
> > The good news is that they are adept at re-nesting, and will
> sometimes nest in drainpipes like Northern Rough-winged Swallows.
We are
> pretty late in the season for them, but it isn’t out of the
question.
> >
> > Cheers-
> > José
> >
> > --
> > José R. Ramírez-Garofalo
> > Pronouns: He/Him/His
> > PhD Student
> > Department of Ecology, Evolution, and Natural Resources
> > Rutgers University
> > 14 College Farm Road,
> > New Brunswick, New Jersey 08901
> >
> >
> > From: Gus Keri <gusk...@zoho.com>
> > Date: Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:52 PM
> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Bank Swallow nests at Plumb Beach
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert
<nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
> >
> >
> > Updates on these nests:
> > Today, the third nest was totally occluded and the fourth one
is
> half-occluded, and I anticipate it to be gone by the end of the
day.
> > The reason: people are camping on the top of the cliff exactly
> above the nesting wall.
> > It is very sad that the first ever Bank Swallow nesting in
Brooklyn
> will not be successful this year and we won't have any new
generation of
> this species here.
> > Gus Keri.
> >
> > ============ Forwarded message ============
> > From: Gus Keri <gusk...@zoho.com>
> > To: "Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding
> alert"<nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
> > Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 20:35:40 -0400
> > Subject: Bank Swallow nests at Plumb Beach
> > ============ Forwarded message ============
> >
> > > As some of you know there are few nest holes in Plumb beach
for
> Bank Swallow this season and this happened here for the first time
ever,
> as far as I know.
> > > For the last couple of weeks, there were total 4 holes in a
> small sandy wall that span some 10-15 feet high and 15-20 feet
wide. I
> only saw the swallows go into three of these holes.
> > > Today, I saw only two open holes while the other two were
> completely occluded with sand.
> > >
> > > I remember at the beginning that two or three other holes
closed
> completely with sand, but this was before they started nesting.
> > > At that time, I thought they make few nests and then choose
one
> or two of them to be used.
> > >
> > > But this time the issue is different. I have seen a swallow
go
> into one of the two closed nests few times which made the
possibility of
> nesting bird inside very high. And this made me think; what if
there was
> a female sitting on the eggs when the hole collapse! Can she make
her
> way out? Are these holes connected to each other from the inside to
> provide an escape?
> > >
> > > The sand in this wall seems to be soft and can collapse
easily.
> This will put all the other nests at risk.
> > > I have never seen Bank Swallow nests before, so, I have no
> knowledge of this trouble.
> > >
> > > I thought some of you might have an answer.
> > >
> > > Does sand collapse cause any harm to the nesting birds?
> > > Is there anything can be done to protect the current nests?
> > >
> > > Gus Keri
> > >
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